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Old 29 Sep 2005, 00:43   #1 (permalink)
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Venerable Dreadnought
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Venerable Dreadnought
AC/SB/DCCW xtra armor

Venerable Dreadnought
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10 man Tac Squad
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10 man Tac Squad
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i dont play SM, but i was thinking of this list as a purchase.. mostly because i LIKE dreadnoughts models, theyd be worth the $240, and i thought itd be kewl to see 6 lined up... but how acceptable is it?? how underpowered/overpowered is it?? how much should i burn in hell for even thinking this?
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Old 29 Sep 2005, 00:53   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, thats a lot of dreadnaughts! Yah lots of people will call that cheesy. Im not sure how affective that would be either, besides that it would be expensive and hard to paint. (i dont like painting vehicles).I would suggest not doing it but if you really want to then go for it.
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i don't find the list cheesy, easier to kil yes but cheesy, no, if it's in your fluff then no problem...
personally i would'nt bother with the terminator honours on you Sgt's, i'd give your tac squads Plasma Cannons and Plasmaguns, (AP2 Goodness) and instead of two hurricanes, get more speeders, if you bring more they're less likely of going down easy, give them all Heavy Bolters, give one more dread a Lascannon, and take of the missile launchers on the others, give them storm bolters, then you'll scare your opponant with 6 charging Dreads, this especially scare the hell out of small hoard players as practically nothing can hurt them in close combat. just be wary of Imperial Guard.
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Old 29 Sep 2005, 01:44   #4 (permalink)
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I'd have to say the list is underpowered in my humble opinion. *Very themely though I must admit. *It's jsut that even with the best of luck your going to loose a fair number of dreads in the course of the battle. *If you ahve my luck you'll loose them all. *:P *Still, you seem to ahve spread your weapon choices out well though i ahve toa sk where the poor commander is going to go?
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Old 29 Sep 2005, 10:31   #5 (permalink)
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My buddy played this list. He used the veny dreads with assault cannon DCCW, and the normal dreadnoughts with LC, ML combo. he has never lost with this list......Of course there are some pretty tricky tactics to nail down with this army.
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Old 29 Sep 2005, 13:02   #6 (permalink)
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This list will either win overwhelmingly, or die quickly...depending on the opponent.

It's somewhat similar, though much weaker, to the list a buddy of mine used for a while (3 furiosos, 3 normal dreads, sanguinary priest with escort, 2 min/max las squads, pie-plate if there were points to spare). His furiosos never lived to see the assault phase, but they attracted so much fire that the rest of his army did pretty well, most of the time. Against my IG (only 7 lascannons and 3 autocannons, I promise!), he never made it to turn 4. Against my DA, his infantry fell quickly to my plasma, but my 4 lascannons had trouble with the dreads due to only being able to target one per turn (but they rarely failed to kill one every turn). If he was able to kill my devastators quickly enough, he generally won, if my lascannons made it to their 4th shooting phase, he generally lost.

With a list like this, you have to be able to eliminate pretty much all anti-tank threats in the first two turns, no ifs, ands, or buts. 2/3 of your army is vehicles of AV12 or worse. Good news: you need S6 and god rolls to glance a dread. Bad news: it doesn't take a lot of S7 or better weapons to ruin your day.

So, no, it's not cheesy, only an oponent who gambles that he won't face more than 2 vehicles and spends his points accordingly will have insurmountable problems. If anything, it's a weak list.
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personally i wouldn't bother with the terminator honours on you Sgt's, I'd give your
I would, one of my sergeants with Terminator Honours, Power Weapon and a bolt pistol walked through half an army (OK, exaggeration, but he kill more than 2 of my squads worth in points.

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i don't find the list cheesy, easier to kil yes but cheesy, no, if it's in your fluff then no problem...
Only powergamers would in my opinion.

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i'd give your tac squads Plasma Cannons and Plasmaguns, (AP2 Goodness)
I prefer meltas, higher strength, better AP (true it's only useful against vehicles but that's not the point), can double-toughness Marines and it doesn't overheat!!

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and instead of two hurricanes, get more speeders, if you bring more they're less likely of going down easy, give them all Heavy Bolters
I don't have a problem with these land speeders, in fact I use these myself and they always last at least 2 turns and always win their points back.

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give one more dread a Lascannon, and take of the missile launchers on the others, give them storm bolters.
Not my first choice, but it's your army. Personally I'd recommend leaving the Dread's as they are.

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then you'll scare your opponant with 6 charging Dreads, this especially scare the hell out of small hoard players as practically nothing can hurt them in close combat. just be wary of Imperial Guard.
This I agree with. 'Nids only have a selct few units which can harm a Dread's front armour, the Orkz have poor accuracy (unless you happen to be nicknamed Brin Milo like my Orky friend), but Guard can have a ton of lascannons and tread-fethers (missile launchers), not to mention autocannons and their ordnance.
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 18:32   #8 (permalink)
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Holeee crap, that's a lot of anti-tank power!

If you fiish painting that, let us know. I'd love to see that many Dreads!

As others stated, you'll want to focus on getting rid of every tank FIRST THING. That will mow down any horde army (with the exception of IG, who keep an extra Lascannon in their undershorts. Really. It's in the Codex.) Other Marines and Chaos would be a decent challeneg for you, but heavy mech forces could potentially tear this apart.

Just be cautious, and you'll be fine.
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after reading these posts, im definately gonna min the Tac squads, and get more throwaway Melta LandSpeeders.. just to pop the dread poppers first! IF i go this route... im sure id catch hell at my local game store lining up 6 dreads on a tabletop.... id get some groupie ooooh!!!'s but also a lotta veteran Boooooo!!!'s
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after reading these posts, im definately gonna min the Tac squads, and get more throwaway Melta LandSpeeders.. just to pop the dread poppers first! IF i go this route... im sure id catch hell at my local game store lining up 6 dreads on a tabletop.... id get some groupie ooooh!!!'s but also a lotta veteran Boooooo!!!'s
Dude, screw the haters. If you like Dreads, play 'em. People who don't like can either beat you with a new strategy or die trying. Always do your own thing, man.
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