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Old 15 Jun 2010, 21:27   #1 (permalink)
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I need a 1600pts Blood Angels army for a campaign (opponents will mostly be Tyranids, Chaos and Space Marines).
My first list (including Death Company), which is quite assault oriented, can be found here: http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...c,97405.0.html

However, against these opponents assault as the only option might not be the best idea...
Also, a peculiarity of the campaign is that while losses can be regenerated, there will be games where I have to start with a point deduction due to losses suffered in the previous battle(s).

As an alternative I have designed a rather shooty Blood Angels Army:

[HQ]

HQ 1: : 160 points
- Reclusiarch: Jump pack, Melta bombs

[hr]

[ELITES]

Elite 1: : 150points
- 2x Sanguinary Priest, Jump pack

[hr]

[TROOPS]

Troops 1: : 235 points
- 10 Assault Marines, 2xMelta, Sergeant: Power fist

Troops 2: : 215 points
- 10 Assault Marines, 2xFlamer, Sergeant: Lightning Claw

Troops 3: : 125 points
- 5 Assault Marines, Flamer
- Razorback, TL-Heavy Bolter

Troops 4: : 85 points
- 5 Scouts: 4 Sniper rifles, Missile launcher
[hr]

[FAST ATTACK]

Fast Attack 1: : 145 points
- Baal Predator, TL Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Fast Attack 2: : 60 points
- Land Speeder: 2xHeavy Bolter

Fast Attack 3: : 60 points
- Land Speeder: 2xHeavy Bolter

[hr]

[HEAVY SUPPORT]

Heavy Support 1: : 135 points
- Predator, Lascannon Sponsons

Heavy Support 1: : 115 points
- Dreadnought, Assault Cannon, Stormbolter

Heavy Support 1: : 115 points
- Dreadnought, Assault Cannon, Stormbolter

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[size=14pt]Army Total: 1600[/size]

So, what do you think? Critique & Comments welcome!
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Old 15 Jun 2010, 22:49   #2 (permalink)
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I kinda think your better off swapping those landspeeders out for attack bikes. But thats only because I feel attack bikes in BA will survive alot better, especially when next to those priests.
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Old 16 Jun 2010, 22:06   #3 (permalink)
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I think with those Dreads, Predators and the Razorback around the Landspeeders have a good chance to stay alive for a while and fire with impunity.

For their points value I would get only 4 naked bikes, which I feel won't achieve much. Also, this exchange would drastically lessen the damage output of my shooting ...

Last, but not least, while bikes can be great in game-terms, I really dislike those crude bike Miniatures :
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Old 16 Jun 2010, 23:18   #4 (permalink)
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Wait 4 regular bikes or 4 attack bikes? Attack bikes are totally different from regular bikes. I actually hate regular bikes alot.

Course that doesn't change what you said about the crude bike models as the attack bike uses the regular bike as a base with a side car add-on.
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Old 17 Jun 2010, 19:44   #5 (permalink)
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Ah, okay, I was referring to regular bikes (in my German Codex, attack bikes are called Trikes)...

Quite frankly, I just didn't have attack bikes on my radar ...

So, for the 2 Landspeeders I can get 3 attack bikes with Heavy Bolters. Given that they also have twin-linked Bolters the firepower would be ok, and more mobile to boot. Plus I can support my other units in close combat.

I find that the crude looks are actually more fitting with the side car, so I could live with that.

Thanks for the advice, I think I'll do the swap! Would you suggest one squad of 3, or 2 squads with 2+1?

Another option would be to throw out the Razorback squad and the landspeeders, and get another Scout squad like the one above plus two attack bike units with 2 bikes each... so, what do you think?
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Old 18 Jun 2010, 08:43   #6 (permalink)
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They all work, experimentation is probably the reason I spend to much money on these models. That's why I have 5 regular bikes all painted up and sitting on a book shelf.
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Old 28 Jun 2010, 19:38   #7 (permalink)
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Ok, I'm sold on the attack bikes (and I have already ordered 4 of them ). With them, the list looks like this (170pts still left):

[HQ]
HQ 1: : 160 points
- Reclusiarch: Jump pack, Melta bombs
[hr]
[ELITES]
Elite 1: : 150points
- 2x Sanguinary Priest, Jump pack
[hr]
[TROOPS]
Troops 1: : 235 points
- 10 Assault Marines, 2xMelta, Sergeant: Power fist

Troops 2: : 215 points
- 10 Assault Marines, 2xFlamer, Sergeant: Lightning Claw

[hr]

[FAST ATTACK]

Fast Attack 1: : 145 points
- Baal Predator, TL Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Fast Attack 2: : 80 points
- 2 Attack Bikes: 2xHeavy Bolter

Fast Attack 3: : 80 points
- 2 Attack Bikes: 2xHeavy Bolter

[hr]

[HEAVY SUPPORT]

Heavy Support 1: : 135 points
- Predator, Lascannon Sponsons

Heavy Support 1: : 115 points
- Dreadnought, Assault Cannon, Stormbolter

Heavy Support 1: : 115 points
- Dreadnought, Assault Cannon, Stormbolter
[hr]

[size=14pt]Army Total: 1430[/size]

I'm a bit undecided what to get for the remaining 170pts to bring the list to 1600; I could either get
10xTactical Marines with Flamer and Missile Launcher
(for guarding my home objective)

or two squads of Scouts, each with:
5 Scouts: 4 Sniper rifles, Missile launcher
(more long range fire support)

Another question is whether I should replace the Reclusiarch with a Librarian (esp. against Tyranids). What do you think?
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What about a Devastator Squad with 4 weapons and extra men with the remaining points. They can deploy along with your snipers to provide heavier long range support. Since your shooty and all...
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