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Old 09 Jan 2010, 21:35   #1 (permalink)
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Default my first army

Hi TO members, this is my first post so i'm going to keep it simple. Here is my army list:

HQ

Chapter Master

Relic Blade
Melta Bombs
Artificer Armor
Bolter Free

175pts

Command Squad

Company Standard
Company Champion
Plasma Gun
Power Fist
All Have Melta Bombs

205pts

Troops

Tactical Squad

Missle Launcher
Flamer
Sergeant Melta Bombs

95pts

Tactical Squad

"
"
"

95pts

Scout Squad

Sniper Rifles
Scout Sergeant Telion
Cammo Cloaks

140pts

Scout Squad

Sergeant Melta Bombs and teleport homer
Heavy Bolter

90pts

Drop Pod

Deathwind Launcher

55pts

Elites

Terminator Squad

200pts

Terminator Assault Squad

3x Thunder Hammers and Storm Shield
2x Lightning Claws

Land Raider With Storm Bolter

460pts

Dreadnought

105pts

Ironclad Dreadnought

2x Hunter Killer Missles

155pts

Fast Attack

Assault Squad

Sergeant Melta Bombs And Power Weapon

120pts

Land Speeder

Tornado Assault Cannon

90pts

Bike Squad

Plasma Gun
Sergeant Melta Bombs

110pts

Land Sppeder Storm

50pts

Thunderfire Cannon

100pts

Vindicator

115pts

2360pts


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Old 09 Jan 2010, 21:41   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: my first army

First off, welcome to the site! I think you find it a great atmosphere for learning about everything Forty-Kay! First off, make sure that you've read the forum's rules. Any other information concerning the forum can most likely be found in the Announcements forum. However, there might be something that you might not be able to find in either places . None of the Staff could ever create an exhaustive list of all the things that newcomers ask so they've set up a forum just for those sort of answers- The Comments/Suggestions board! It would also be wise to note that there has been a recent crackdown on grammar and punctuation. Unlike other places on the Internet, we pride ourselves on having good spelling and grammar :P. But seriously, I know you probably will not have a problem with it, but it is something to note all the same.

Okay. Enough with the boring administrative stuff, lets get on with the critique .

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Yikes! First thing that I thought to myself before even reading your list is that your coding is atrocious. I don't know if you've been on any other forum, but there is a way to format your posts exactly like as if you were MS Word or Pages. And that is with BBC Coding. If you were making a hypothetical post, you would see something along the lines of this above the text box where you can put lettering in. Note that I'm using an earlier skin of Tau Online so yours might look a wee bit different, but, for all means and purposes, it should look similar. You use these buttons as a short cut for writing in code. For example, if you wanted to code for bold you only need to press the bold button and the coding will magically appear. You can either press the button and it will pop out an empty coding wrapper, or you can highlight some text and press the button and it will wrap that text in the code wrapper. Now, starting from the top left, here is what each button does, and what it's function is.

1. Bold: Fairly self-explanatory. It makes the text bold to add emphasis.

2. Italicize: Also self-explanatory. It can also add emphasis or it can be used for the title of a book or newspaper.

3. Underline: Underlines the text to add emphasis or to point out some types of literary works. Here, it is primarily used to add emphasis :P.

4. Strikethrough: Used to signify the deletion of something. Around here, it can be used for comedic value.

5. Preformated Text: This tag instructs your web browser to show the text exactly as inserted in the HTML document, including spaces and tabs.

6. Left Aline: Alines the text to the left side of the page.

7. Centered: Alines the text to the center of the page.

8. Right Aline: Alines the text to the right side of the page.

9. Font Face: This allows you to change the font of your posts. I, however, recommend that you just keep the font as is.

10. Font Size: Allows you to change the size of your post.

11. Change Color: Allows you to change the color of your text. Note that you cannot use HTML color codes in place of the "purple" or the "green".

12. Insert Image: Wraps the text in "img" tags. If you have a url that links to an image, you can wrap the url in this tag and it will post a picture of said image.

13. Insert Hyperlink: This allows you to post a url link directly to the forum.

14. Insert email: I've never really used this one much but if you have an email, I assume that it allows you to directly link it to someone else's computer.

15. Insert FTP Link: Allows you to directly link a File Transfer Protocol, the protocol for exchanging files over the Internet. This one doesn't get used all to often.

16. Glow: Adds a eery glow to your text. Can be overused very easily.

17. Shadow: Adds a shadow to your text. Can be overused very easily.

18. Marquee: Gives your text a scrolling effect. Can be overused very easily.

19. Superscript: Puts your text in as a superscript.

20. Subscript: Puts your text in as a subscript.

21. Teletype: Creates teletyped or monospaced fonts of the enclosed text.

22. Insert Table: Allows you to insert a table of information.

23. Insert Code: Takes away the coding element and allows you to post up tags with out them triggering a response from the forum.

24. Insert Quote: Allows you to quote other members of the forum and wraps it in a nice little box.

25. Insert List: Adds a bulleted list to your information.

26. Insert List: For some reason, it adds a bulleted list as well. In the past, however, this added a numerical list.

27. Horizontal Rule: Adds a separator line.

28. Add Spoiler: Adds a button that you must click on in order to display information.

29. Add a Box around the text: This one adds a box around the text :P.

30. Remove Formatting: Removes the formatting on the page.

31. Toggle View: Toggles the view. I'm actually not quite sure what purpose this one serves.

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Phew! That was probably long and boring for the both of us! Now, lets apply these codes to your list and see what we come up with .

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Originally Posted by James.p
HQ

Chapter Master

Relic Blade
Melta Bombs
Artificer Armor
Bolter Free

175pts

Command Squad

Company Standard
Company Champion
Plasma Gun
Power Fist
All Have Melta Bombs

205pts

Troops

Tactical Squad

Missle Launcher
Flamer
Sergeant Melta Bombs

95pts

Tactical Squad

"
"
"

95pts

Scout Squad

Sniper Rifles
Scout Sergeant Telion
Cammo Cloaks

140pts

Scout Squad

Sergeant Melta Bombs and teleport homer
Heavy Bolter

90pts

Drop Pod

Deathwind Launcher

55pts

Elites

Terminator Squad

200pts

Terminator Assault Squad

3x Thunder Hammers and Storm Shield
2x Lightning Claws

Land Raider With Storm Bolter

460pts

Dreadnought

105pts

Ironclad Dreadnought

2x Hunter Killer Missles

155pts

Fast Attack

Assault Squad

Sergeant Melta Bombs And Power Weapon

120pts

Land Speeder

Tornado Assault Cannon

90pts

Bike Squad

Plasma Gun
Sergeant Melta Bombs

110pts

Land Sppeder Storm

50pts

Thunderfire Cannon

100pts

Vindicator

115pts

2360pts
This is your original post. As you can see, its cluttered, unorganized, and, to be brutally honest, it doesn't make that much sense. Now, lets see what we can do with this to make it slick and aesthetically pleasing .

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Code:
?Headquarters?
Chapter Master Gaius ~ 175 Points
  • Relic Blade
  • Melta-Bombs
  • Artificer Armor
  • Bolter
Command Squad Gaius ~ 205 Points
  • Company Standard with Melta-Bombs
  • Company Champion with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother equipped with Plasma Gun and Melta-Bombs
  • Brother equipped with Power Fist and Melta-Bombs
?Elites?
5 Terminators ~ 200 Points 5 Assault Terminators ~ 460 Points
  • Brother equipped with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
  • Brother equipped with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Land Raider
    • Storm Bolter
Dreadnought ~ 105 Points Ironclad Dreadnought ~ 155 Points
  • 2 Hunter-Killer Missiles
?Troops?
5 Man Tactical Squad ~ 95 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with Flamer
  • Brother is equipped with Missile Launcher
5 Man Tactical Squad ~ 150 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with Flamer
  • Brother is equipped with Missile Launcher
  • Drop Pod
    • Deathwing Launcher
5 Man Scout Squad ~ 140 Points
  • All Brothers are equipped with Sniper Rifles
  • Scout Sergeant Telion
  • Camo Cloaks
5 Man Scout Squad ~ 90 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta Bombs and a Teleport Homer
  • Brother is equipped with a Heavy Bolter
?Fast Attack?
5 Man Assault Squad ~ 120 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs and a Power Weapon
Land Speeder ~ 90 Points
  • Tornado Assault Cannon
3 Man Bike Squad ~ 110 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with a Plasma Gun
Land Speeder Storm ~ 50 Points
?Heavy Support?
Thunderfire Cannon ~ 100 Points Vindicator ~ 115 Points Total~2360 Points
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All of this coding gives you a very nice finish product, demonstrated below

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?Headquarters?

Chapter Master Gaius ~ 175 Points
  • Relic Blade
  • Melta-Bombs
  • Artificer Armor
  • Bolter

Command Squad Gaius ~ 205 Points
  • Company Standard with Melta-Bombs
  • Company Champion with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother equipped with Plasma Gun and Melta-Bombs
  • Brother equipped with Power Fist and Melta-Bombs

?Elites?

5 Terminators ~ 200 Points

5 Assault Terminators ~ 460 Points
  • Brother equipped with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
  • Brother equipped with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Brother equipped with dual Lightning Claws
  • Land Raider
    • Storm Bolter

Dreadnought ~ 105 Points

Ironclad Dreadnought ~ 155 Points
  • 2 Hunter-Killer Missiles

?Troops?

5 Man Tactical Squad ~ 95 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with Flamer
  • Brother is equipped with Missile Launcher

5 Man Tactical Squad ~ 150 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with Flamer
  • Brother is equipped with Missile Launcher
  • Drop Pod
    • Deathwing Launcher

5 Man Scout Squad ~ 140 Points
  • All Brothers are equipped with Sniper Rifles
  • Scout Sergeant Telion
  • Camo Cloaks

5 Man Scout Squad ~ 90 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta Bombs and a Teleport Homer
  • Brother is equipped with a Heavy Bolter

?Fast Attack?

5 Man Assault Squad ~ 120 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta-Bombs and a Power Weapon

Land Speeder ~ 90 Points
  • Tornado Assault Cannon

3 Man Bike Squad ~ 110 Points
  • Sergeant is equipped with Melta Bombs
  • Brother is equipped with a Plasma Gun

Land Speeder Storm ~ 50 Points

?Heavy Support?

Thunderfire Cannon ~ 100 Points

Vindicator ~ 115 Points

Total~2360 Points[/box]

There we go! Loads more aesthetically pleasing. If you'd like to edit this code into your original post, simply highlight all the coding, click the "Edit" button, and then paste the coding into the text box. Its that easy .

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Now that you've got the jest on how to code in this forum, lets move on to the list. After its been organized, we can see that you've got lots of problems in it, primarily you do not follow the force organization chart. You are only allotted 2 Headquarters, 3 Elites, 6 Troops, 3 Fast Attack, and 3 Heavy Support. Your list has 1 Headquarter, 4 Elites, 4 Troops, 4 Fast Attack, and 2 Heavy Support. Your list, as it stands right now, is illegal. Legalize it and I will come back through with a more fine toothed comb and critique your individual squads. But right now, you've got to redo the majority of you list.

Hope this helped you out! Until next time,

∆ūikdlr

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Old 10 Jan 2010, 12:32   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: my first army

First up, welcome to the site, James P. However, I've had to remove the individual points costs for items in your list. When posting lists, just post the unit's total. For instance, don't list it as "Space Royale (40) with Cheese (5) and Pickle (5)" but as "Space Royale with Cheese and Pickle (50).

Also, when posting an Army List, it's easier to read when you use Bold or Underline to break up each part. Also, try to list the numbers in each unit, like 10 Tactical Marines, 5 Terminators, etc, as this makes it easier for others to critique the list.

Onto the list itself. I know this is just a list of what you have, but you can't actually field tactical squads of 5 with a flamer and a missile launcher: The codex states the squad must be ten strong before it can take special or heavy weapons.
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