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Old 31 Dec 2009, 23:04   #1 (permalink)
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Default Space Wolves: 1500 points Drop Pod Army

Ok it's been about 2 years since I played 40k, so I picked up the new rulebook and some space wolves and decided to get back into the game again. Please bare in mind, I'm yet to actualy play a game with this army, it's not even painted yet, and I'm still waiting on the forgeworld space wolves venerable dread to finish it off.

Anyway, if you guys could rate and fix that'd be awesome, remember, I'm pretty much a total noob again. Not to mention I've never played marines before, and have only vaguely played a assault orientated army during my brief stint with the dark eldar. I'm expecting to have missed out some really basic stuff so any critisism is welcome.

[size=14pt]Army Name: Space Wolves Drop Force: 1500pts [/size]

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[HQ]

HQ 1: Wolf Guard Battle Leader: 110
- Power Armour
- Frag and Krak Grenades
- Combi-Melta
- Wolf Claw
- Mark of the Hunter
- Attached to Elites 1 - Wolf Scouts.

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[ELITES]

Elite 1: Wolf Scouts x7: 165
- 5x Scout Armour
- 2x Power Weapon
- 2x Plasma Pistol
- 3x Bolt Pistol
- 3x Close Combat Weapon
- Attached To HQ1 - Wolf Guard Battle Leader

Elite 2: Wolf Guard Terminators x5: 275
- 5x Terminator Armor
- 3x Wolf Claw
- 2x Thunder Hammer
- 4x Storm Bolter
- Assault Cannon
- Drop Pod:- Storm Bolter

Elite 3: Dreadnought: 165
- Multi-Melta
- Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon
- Heavy Flamer
- Extra Armour
- Drop Pod:- Storm Bolter

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[TROOPS]

Troops 1: Grey Hunters x5: 150
- 5x Power Armour
- Frag and Krak Grenades
- 5x Bolt Gun
- 5x Bolt Pistol
- 5x Close Combat Weapon
- Razorback - Twin-linked Lascannon

Troops 2: Grey Hunters x10: 225
- 10x Power Armour
- Frag and Krak Grenades
- 10x Boltgun
- 10x Bolt Pistol
- 9x Close Combat Weapon
- Mark of the Wulfen
- 1x Powerfist
- Drop Pod:- Storm Bolter

Troops 3: Grey Hunters x9 + Wolf Guard Pack Leader: 251
- 10x Power Armour
- 9x Bolt Gun
- 9x Bolt Pistol
- Mark of the Wulfen
- 8x Close Combat Weapon
- 2x Power Fist
- Storm Bolter
- Drop Pod:- Storm Bolter

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[HEAVY SUPPORT]

Heavy Support 1: Long Fangs x5 + Squad Leader: 155
- 6x Power Armour
- Frag And Krak Grenades
- 3x Heavy Bolter
- 2x Lascannon
- Bolt Pistol
- Close Combat Weapon


[size=14pt]Army Total: 1496 Points [/size]

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Old 31 Dec 2009, 23:51   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Space Wolves: 1500 points Drop Pod Army

You have a very expensive tooled out scout unit that will just end up dying in 1 turn of shooting. Add more models to it.

You can't have 2 special weapons in your first grey hunter squad unless you have 10 grey hunters.

Your second grey hunter squad ahs 2 power fists and 1 thunder hammer listed... how?

Personally I would want 1 more unit of troops for 1500, aim for 1 troop per 500 points and you should be good.
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Old 01 Jan 2010, 17:40   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Space Wolves: 1500 points Drop Pod Army

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You have a very expensive tooled out scout unit that will just end up dying in 1 turn of shooting. Add more models to it.
Ok, would you suggest removing the battle leader, and replacing him with more scouts?

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You can't have 2 special weapons in your first grey hunter squad unless you have 10 grey hunters.
Ah right, I added the second plasma gun in because I was under the impression that it counted the wolf guard pack leader as a member of the squad.

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Your second grey hunter squad ahs 2 power fists and 1 thunder hammer listed... how?
Typo, sorry it should be 1 power fist and 1 thunder hammer.

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Personally I would want 1 more unit of troops for 1500, aim for 1 troop per 500 points and you should be good.
Any reccomendations as to what I should trim down to make room?
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Old 02 Jan 2010, 20:28   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Space Wolves: 1500 points Drop Pod Army

Clean up the errors on your list, it's hard to comment when I don't know what your going to keep. I agree with Space Wolf Bob.

One quick recommendation, drop the Wolf Priest. Why your say? Good question, restarting the Wolves, it makes sense to get the feel of your force. WPriest only help out, at this points level you can't really set him up as he should be.

Add a third smaller units of GHs with these points. 6 GH would be good. All they do is baby sit the Long Fangs or run for /hold an objective.

Scouts- take out one Power weapon and add one scout.

Elites are very expensive at this points level, plus you have Assault Cannon and Cyclone ML you can only have one per 5 Terminators.

Long Fangs- How about some Heavy Bolter, you need at least two in there, drop two MLs and get two HBs in there. If you have the models, 3 HBs and 2 Las Cannons or 2 HBs, 1 ML, 2 Las Cannons. Depending on your models. Split fire really rocks with these combos.

I have also come to the conclusion that the WG leader does not count toward the 10 GH in the unit. It would really be over powered as I have been playing only with my SW army lately and the GH really are a great unit. So fix up the Gh units to reflect this. I am pretty sure the next FAQ will reflect this. If we can include them in the TEN, Damn it's going to be Killer UNIT.

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Ok I took the majority of your advice, here's the changed reflected in my list

HQ:
Removed the Rune Priest entirely

Troops:
Added another squad of grey hunters
Removed the wolf guard leaders entirely from the non-assault squads, these guys are to sit on objectives so I think the leader is a waste tbh.
Removed the plasma pistol from the grey hunter assault squad.
Dropped the Wolf Guard leader's thunder hammer for a power fist.

Elites:
Added two extra scouts to the scout squad.

Heavy Support:
Removed the missile launchers, replaced them with heavy bolters.
Removed the Wolf guard squad leader entirely.
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Old 06 Jan 2010, 04:54   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Space Wolves: 1500 points Drop Pod Army

Ok, now you have a list. ;D

It very good, you now have the bodies.

You do need some extra Powerfists or extra stuff in the regular GH units. Another trick to add more bodies in your WG drop pod is mixed armour is change one terminator to two Power Armour guys.

You need to do few change but do you have the models or are you building an army?

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I'm currently building the army, I'm waiting on forgeworld to release the dread. I'm off to the workshop tomorrow, so I'm going to need another squad of GH's and a box of scouts, Not to mention another four drop pods!

Fun times.
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Before you go consider this, I make take a look at the third Drop Pod. Think about cutting it down to about 5 marines in a razorback.
Then you could beef up the other two units with GH Powerfists and maybe MotW. That way you can crunch up another T4 or T5 type unit,because those Plasma guns won't help you in Close Combat.

Razorback marines can provide backup to your Long Fangs.
Razorback now is another mobile weapons platform.
Razorback can now be used to move your Long Fangs should the need arise.
Razorback can move this GH unit to the middle of no man's land and become mobile cover.


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Old 26 Jan 2010, 12:52   #9 (permalink)
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Hey guys i'm just new to this and i'm only familar with the pc game but i have been converted by a friend and i have decided to start building my own space wolf army. I am planning on using them but i cant really get a grip of some things in the codex in comparison to what others say such as

Troops 2: Grey Hunters x10: 225
- 10x Power Armour
- Frag and Krak Grenades
- 10x Boltgun
- 10x Bolt Pistol
- 9x Close Combat Weapon
- Mark of the Wulfen
- 1x Powerfist
- Drop Pod:- Storm Bolter

How can you have 10 bolt guns, pistols AND close combat weapons, isnt it either a boltgun or a bolt pistol/ccw? According to a guy from gw they could only hold a boltgun/ccw in the old codex, now they cant?

cheers for any help, i don wanna get modeling incase i **** it up and have ilegal troops lol
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The codex states that they are equipped with boltguns, bolt pistols, and close combat weapons. Meaning they benefit from the extra range and rapid fire ability of the boltguns, yet still get +1 attacks in close combat for having a pistol and ccw.

Hence why grey hunters are better than normal marines for their points.
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