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Old 22 Aug 2009, 12:00   #1 (permalink)
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I'm using an attack bike in my space wolf army and I'm wondering if they can fire their heavy weapon when they moved, I presume they can as it wouldn't be a choice otherwise. (I don't know this as I have never really used bikes) Also is the Multi Melta a good choice for it as I'm going against Imperial Guard and have a Whirlwind to sort out the infantry.

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Old 22 Aug 2009, 13:39   #2 (permalink)
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All space marine bikes have the "relentless" special rule that allows you to move, shoot (including heavy weapons and rapid fire weapons) and assault
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 16:05   #3 (permalink)
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All space marine bikes have the "relentless" special rule that allows you to move, shoot (including heavy weapons and rapid fire weapons) and assault
Not quite.

Relentless allows you to move then fire heavy and rapid fire wepaon as if you had remained stationary.

Relentless does not allow you to assault if the weapon type prevent you from assaulting.
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Old 22 Aug 2009, 21:49   #4 (permalink)
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All space marine bikes have the "relentless" special rule that allows you to move, shoot (including heavy weapons and rapid fire weapons) and assault
Not quite.

Relentless allows you to move then fire heavy and rapid fire wepaon as if you had remained stationary.

Relentless does not allow you to assault if the weapon type prevent you from assaulting.
Sorry Bone but you are wrong, look at page 76 of the main rule book! They count as stationary when firing heavy and rapid fire weapons and are allowed to assault in the same turn they fire them.
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 04:23   #5 (permalink)
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Hmmm interesting, since shooting a rapid fire weapon prevents you from assaulting p28 4th paragraph of Rapid fire weapon section.

So Relentless ignore this limitation??
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 04:35   #6 (permalink)
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Relentless (page 76)

"Relentless models can shot with rapid fire and heavy weapons counting as stationary, even if they moved in the previous movement phase, and are also allowed to assault in th same turn they fire them"
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I know, I checked yesterday evening.

It's still interesting that Relentless allows you to assault with a rapid fire weapon when rapid fire weapon clearly forbids you to do so if you shoot it.

Now this will change a bit my tactics.
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 05:24   #8 (permalink)
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Are the attack bikes actually good in cc? or would you just do it if there are a couple people left in the squad u shot at?

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the only time you should really charge with attack bikes is when you have no other choice. for instance, if you just shot up a squad holding an objective or needed an extra kill point near the end of the game, if it is an easy target with no power weapons or anything like that, you might as well to get that kill point or clear off the objective
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 09:05   #10 (permalink)
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They can actually fire both their weapons and assault, though I see no reason why you'd want to assault with them, unless you're against last 3 guardsmen or something.
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