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Old 15 Jul 2007, 00:30   #1 (permalink)
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HQ 1 Librarian Solaris 210 1483
2 Familiars
1 Iron Halo
1 Close Combat
1 Veil Of Time
1 Fury Of The Ancients
1 Jump Pack
1 Terminator Honours

Elite 5 Terminator Squad 250
2 Assault Cannons
2 Chainfists

Elite 10 Veteren Squad 270
1 Lightning Claws
1 Power Weapon
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Combi Meltagun
1 Furious Charge
1 Combat Shield

Troop 10 Tactical Squad 253
1 Flamer
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Auspex
10 True Grit
10 Infiltrate
1 Combat Shield

Troop 10 Tactical Squad 175
1 Lascannon
1 Plasma Gun

FA 5 Assault Squad 165
2 Plasma Pistols
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Combat Shield

HS 5 Devastator Squad 160
2 Lascannons
5 Infiltrate
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Old 15 Jul 2007, 04:49   #2 (permalink)
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[u]Overall Comments

Overall the list looks interesting but I don't see any way for your assault elements other than the assault squad. The shooty elements seem good but having 10 dangerous vets footslogging across the field is just asking for trouble.

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1 Librarian Solaris 210
2 Familiars
1 Iron Halo
1 Close Combat
1 Veil Of Time
1 Fury Of The Ancients
1 Jump Pack
1 Terminator Honours
This guy seems good, Two things though, first, you don't need a ccw (he comes standard with a pistol and a force weapon). Second, you cannot have 2 familiars. I've never seen fury of the ancients used to the same effect as storm of the emperor's wrath, but if you like it better then go right aheadd. I'm assuming that this guy will accompany the assault marines, in which case I'm not sure but I think a chaplain would do more damage as he benefits the entire squad making them fearless and giving them the rerolls.

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10 Tactical Squad 253
1 Flamer
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Auspex
10 True Grit
10 Infiltrate
1 Combat Shield
This is an interesting squad, The only change I would make would be to drop the auspex but if you want to keep it then it really won't effect your effectiveness much.

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10 Tactical Squad 175
1 Lascannon
1 Plasma Gun
Drop the numbers on this squad to either 6 or 8 and give them infiltrate so they deploy last and can keep up with the rest of your army.

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5 Terminator Squad 250
2 Assault Cannons
2 Chainfists
Fair enough, these guys will do alright. But because they're so slow, I doubt these guys will ever get to use those chainfists. Consider dropping them or buying some teleport homers for your infiltrating and fast units (preferably the latter).

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Elite 10 Veteren Squad 270
1 Lightning Claws
1 Power Weapon
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Combi Meltagun
1 Furious Charge
1 Combat Shield
I would drop the combi-melta as it probably won't be used, but if you like it then go ahead and keep it. These guys also suffer from having to footslog across the whole field in order to get into cc. Thus I'd give them a drop pod or a rhino. Other than that they look mean to be in cc against.

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5 Assault Squad 165
2 Plasma Pistols
1 Terminator Honours
1 Power Fist
1 Combat Shield
I don't think these guys have the numbers to do very much. cut some points and add to their numbers. Also consider dropping the plasma pistols as you'll likely only be able to use them once.

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5 Devastator Squad 160
2 Lascannons
5 Infiltrate
These guys look nice and dangerous, and with infiltrate they'll easily be able to get some nice side armour shots with those BS4 Lascannons.

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My suggestions are:
-Drop one familiar and the ccw on the libby
-Make fury of the ancients into storm of the emperor's wrath
-give the termies a drop pod
-Make the second tac squad smaller and give them infiltrate.
-Drop the combi-melta on the veterans
-Drop the PPs on the assault squad
-Make the assault squad bigger
-Give the vets a transport

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Old 15 Jul 2007, 05:06   #3 (permalink)
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Librarian Solaris is actually a special character and these items are used.

The Auspex is just to keep other infiltrating units away from my force

The veterans are a problem with speed and I probobly will give them infilrate instead of furious charge (it suits my armies theme better)

Good advice with the second tac squad, I will drop their numbers

The terminators chainfists will be cut off and i will give the assault marines a teleport homer

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Old 18 Jul 2007, 20:19   #4 (permalink)
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I like to take 1 chainfist to kill pesky dreadnoughts with ease
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1 chainfist ok
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