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Old 05 Jul 2007, 08:24   #1 (permalink)
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Hi need some help with making a 1500pts anti-Eldar/all comer list
This is what I got so far (It will manly facing elder)

Dark Angels 1500pts list
Disciples of Caliban
Anti-Eldar list/all comers

HQ

Company Master (1)
pair of lightning claws, storm bolter, meltabombs, jump pack
160pts
Total=160pts

ELITES

Deathwing Terminator Squad (5)
1x assault cannon
245pts
Total=245pts

TROOPS

Tactical Squad (10)
meltabombs
170pts

Tactical Squad (10)
meltabombs
Rhino Transport (1)
Extra armour, pintle-mounted storm bolter
225pts
Total=395pts

FAST ATTACK

Assault Squad (10)
power fist, meltabombs
265pts

Ravenwing Attack Squadron (6+1 Attack bike)
meltabombs, 2x flamers
285pts
Total=550pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5)
4x heavy bolter
150pts
Total=150pts

TOTAL = 1500pts

My plan is to split the bikes and take them up as fast as I can, one both sides then use their homers to bring in the termes and assault squad with the HQ on the flank with no or less cc guy. The devastator squad will be in cover and sit there raining ap death to all elder they see. Both tacs will push forward and help support the other squads
Any help with list or plan will be much thanked
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Old 05 Jul 2007, 16:45   #2 (permalink)
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What's with the melta bombs? They're basically useless against Eldar, drop all of them and don't look back.

Ok now you have 25 spare points, that was fast.

Moving on

HQ

If you're taking a combat dude to lead your assault squad have you considered a chaplain instead? He'll make the whole squad a lot nastier? Otherwise your HQ is fine.
Alternativley if you want a fast HQ who is rock hard, does lots of damage and can't be ignored try taking Samael. He's expensive but he more than makes up for it.

Elites

Fine, these guys are great.

Troops

If you take the 10 man squads then you should take the heavy weapon you're now allowed to take! Also some special weapons wouldn't go amiss. Plasma weapons are wonderful vs. all eldar units.

Drop the pintle mounted storm bolter on your rhino, it is so far beyond pointless. I wouldn't bother with extra armour either, but that's down to personal prefrence.

Powerfists on the sergeants would not go amiss.

Fast Attack

Assault squad looks good (once you drop the melta bombs)

Ravenwing squad looks good, but once again that veteran sergeant needs a powerfist.

Heavy support

Devestators. Squad looks fine.
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Old 06 Jul 2007, 14:02   #3 (permalink)
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sammael looks good but he spec char so need permition to use

meltabooms two kill tanks (otherwise no tank busters)

why is the chap better then master?

was looking at spec weapons in tacs but want to keep them moving

the tank thing you said look right
ty any more replies are welcome
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Old 07 Jul 2007, 01:34   #4 (permalink)
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sammael looks good but he spec char so need permition to use
No he doesn't.

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meltabooms two kill tanks (otherwise no tank busters)
When you need a six to hit the tank with the meltabombs and can't score penetrating hits they are worthless.

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why is the chap better then master?
He lets the assault squad re-roll missed to hit rolls on the charge.

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was looking at spec weapons in tacs but want to keep them moving
You can still move and shoot special weapons.

Please in the future use full words and sentences.
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Old 12 Jul 2007, 05:16   #5 (permalink)
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First sorry this so late (been busy)

Here is the changed list

Dark Angels 1500pts list
Disciples of Caliban
Anti-Eldar list/all comers

HQ

Interrogator-Chaplain (1)
storm bolter, meltabombs, jump pack
150pts
Total=150pts

ELITES

Deathwing Terminator Squad (5)
1x assault cannon
245pts
Total=245pts

TROOPS

Tactical Squad (10)
165pts

Tactical Squad (10)
165pts
Total=330pts

FAST ATTACK

Assault Squad (10)
power sword , meltabombs
265pts

Ravenwing Attack Squadron (3+1 Attack bike)
meltabombs, 2x flamers
185pts

Ravenwing Attack Squadron (3+1 Attack bike)
meltabombs, 2x flamers
185pts
Total=550pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5)
4x heavy bolter
150pts
Total=150pts

TOTAL = 1500pts

I got the chaplain and dropped the tank plus some of the meltabombs.
Then spent the points on splitting the bikes into two squads both with attack bikes (plan behind this is to make it harder to anticipate where my Terminator Squad and Assault Squad will land plus the fast moving heavy bolter doesn’t hurt) if playing Eldar, Dark Eldar or Tau (army with skimmer tanks) the meltabombs will be droped fo a power fist on the assault squad.

Please tell me what you think and if you where making a Dark Angels 1500pst list what would it be?
Tec (thanks in advance) ;D
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Old 20 Jul 2007, 12:15   #6 (permalink)
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First sorry this so late (been busy)

Here is the changed list

Dark Angels 1500pts list
Disciples of Caliban
Anti-Eldar list/all comers

HQ

Interrogator-Chaplain (1)
storm bolter, meltabombs, jump pack
150pts
Total=150pts
always fun, but I'de make him cheaper, with a loss of melta bombs and storm bolter, although you are deep stricking him.....still one shot for the game or 10pts (shrugs)

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ELITES

Deathwing Terminator Squad (5)
1x assault cannon
245pts
Total=245pts
always fun I suppose, but expensive swaping them out for a pred would be good, a pred with heavy bolter sponsons would help with anti tank (on low to mid armour) and give you points for powerfists, which are always fun

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TROOPS

Tactical Squad (10)
165pts

Tactical Squad (10)
165pts
Total=330pts
me I prefure giving heavy weapons and special weapons, splitting the squads and having fun, but I also take 4 tactical squads so.....

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FAST ATTACK

Assault Squad (10)
power sword , meltabombs
265pts
Hmmm, I'de drop the power weapon and take a fist, 3 attack on a tank (yes against eldar still need 6's) or one, same probability of getting a pen with a fist, and they kill troops good

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Ravenwing Attack Squadron (3+1 Attack bike)
meltabombs, 2x flamers
185pts

Ravenwing Attack Squadron (3+1 Attack bike)
meltabombs, 2x flamers
185pts
Total=550pts
Hmm, melta guns are fun, but if your fighting eldar more then most, two flamers are better

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HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5)
4x heavy bolter
150pts
Total=150pts
Good against GEQ's, and you can lots of wounds on marines, but I prefure to make my dev's (when I use them) anti tank, but that's just me

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TOTAL = 1500pts

I got the chaplain and dropped the tank plus some of the meltabombs.
Then spent the points on splitting the bikes into two squads both with attack bikes (plan behind this is to make it harder to anticipate where my Terminator Squad and Assault Squad will land plus the fast moving heavy bolter doesn’t hurt) if playing Eldar, Dark Eldar or Tau (army with skimmer tanks) the meltabombs will be droped fo a power fist on the assault squad.

Please tell me what you think and if you where making a Dark Angels 1500pst list what would it be?
Tec (thanks in advance) ;D
Here is what I took to the GT

HQ
Librarian
-bike
=150pts
TROOPS
10 marines
1 melta gun
Vet with power weapon
lascannon razorback
=270pts
10 marines
1 with plasma gun
1 with plasma cannon
vet with power fist
=220pts
10 marines
1 with plasma gun
1 with lascannon
vet with power fist
=225pts
5 marines
vet with power weapon
=105pts
FAST ATTACK
3 ravenwing bikers
2 with meltaguns
=140pts
1 ravenwing speeder
heavy bolter
assault cannon
=100pts
1 ravenwing speeder
multi melta
heavy flamer
=75pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
predator
twin linked lascannon
heavy bolters
=130pts
whirlwind
=85pts
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