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Old 19 Apr 2007, 05:08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Fallen Angels 2500 points list

This includes 95% of my fallen angels models in it, the rest of them wont fit :P

Made the entire 2500 points in 2 weeks (still needs to be painted)

Using the Dark Angels codex

[size=12pt]Fallen Angels
“We Shall Never Repent”[/size]


HQ
Cypher (Company master)
-Plasma Pistol
-Power Weapon
-Melta-bombs
Command Squad
-Apothecary
-2x Power Weapon
-Flamer
-2x Plasma Pistol
-Company Champion
Rino
-Extra armour
-HK missile
-Smoke launchers
-Pintle-mounted storm bolter
420pts

Fallen Apostle Carnivean (Interrogator Chaplain)
-Melta-bombs
(Attached to command squad)
125pts

Elites
Fallen Veterans
+5 Veterans
-Combat Squads
Squad one
-3x Power Weapon
-1x Plasma Pistol
-2x Combat shields
Squad two
-Multi-melta
-Melta Gun
-5x Melta Bombs
Rino
-Extra armour
-HK missile
-Smoke launchers
-Pintle-mounted storm bolter
385pts

Fallen Scouts
+5 Scouts
-Combat Squads
Squad one
Scout Sergeant Naamah
-Power Weapon
-Melta-bombs
4x Scouts
-2x Shotguns
Squad two
-4x Sniper rifles
-1x Rocket Launcher
205pts

Fallen Terminators
Terminator Sergeant Uvall
-Power Weapon
4x Terminators
-2x Chain fists
-1x Assault Cannon
255pts

Troops
Fallen Tactical Squad
Tactical Sergeant
-Power Weapon
4x Tactical Marines
-Melta Gun
115pts

Fallen Tactical Squad
Tactical Sergeant
-Power Weapon
-Melta Bombs
4x Tactical Marines
-Melta Gun
115pts

Fallen Tactical Squad
Tactical Sergeant
-Power Weapon
-Plasma Pistol
-Melta Bombs
4x Tactical Marines
-Plasma Gun
135pts

Fallen Tactical Squad
Tactical Sergeant
-Power Weapon
-Melta Bombs
4x Tactical Marines
-Flamer
110pts

Fallen Tactical Squad
+5 Marines
-Combat Squads
Squad one
Tactical Sergeant
-Power Weapon
-Melta Bombs
4x Tactical Marines
-Plasma Gun
Squad two
1x Heavy bolter
205pts

Fast Attack
Fallen Assault Squad
Assault Sergeant
-Plasma pistol
-Power Weapon
-Melta Bombs
4x Assault marines
155pts

Heavy Support
Devastator Squad
Devastator Sergeant
-Power Fist
-Plasma Pistol
-Melta bombs
4x Devastators
-2x Las cannons
-2x Rocket launchers
240pts

TOTAL-2495points

What you think?
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Old 19 Apr 2007, 14:10   #2 (permalink)
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I think you don't know the first thing about designing a competitive army list.

You've got tons and tons of upgrades on very small fragile units, essentially handing your opponent victory points on a gilded platter.

You've made puzzling and contradictory choices in a lot of places and I really don't see what certain units were meant to do.

Firstly I'll start with my favorite puzzling choice you made, the devastators

You have like 4 minimum sized marine squads, and only one maxed out heavy weapon squad.

Then we get to your massively expensive and useless devastators. Firstly you've spent an colossal amount of points on a veteran sergeant , who will never get to use any of his fancy gear unless he runs forward.

Why does a shooty squad need a powerfist? Why does he need melta bombs!!! The first casualty inflicted on this squad forces you to remove an upgraded model.

I'll show you what I would have done with the troops and heavy support in this list based and then you can make your own choice.

10 Tactical marines, sergeant has a power fist and plasma pistol, plasma gun, lascannon
240

10 Tactical marines, sergeant has a power weapon, plasma gun, lascannon
215

5 Tactical marines, sergeant has a power weapon, melta gun
115

5 Tactical marines, sergeant has a power weapon, flamer
110

5 Devastators, 2 missile launchers
130

All that totals in at 810 and gives you some very flexible and useful squad options.
In total it is 110 points LESS than your previous selections. That's another 5 marines w/ upgrades you can add to your army!
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Old 19 Apr 2007, 15:57   #3 (permalink)
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If it's not supposed to be a power-gaming list and more a fluffy one, that seems perfect. Everything is in order (In my opinion).... Glad to see you finally got around to doing this JD.
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Old 19 Apr 2007, 16:02   #4 (permalink)
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If it's not supposed to be a power-gaming list and more a fluffy one, that seems perfect. Everything is in order (In my opinion).... Glad to see you finally got around to doing this JD.
I'm not trying to make a "power-gaming" list [size=6pt](detestable term)[/size] I'm trying to make something that won't lose simply because it was deployed.

As it stands the current version of the list is jealous of sub par army lists for their carefully designed and thought out unit selections and construction.
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Ok, what I meant was -This list is not supposed to win, it's supposed to have a good story-line and be fun to play with, and not necessarily win-. AND it wouldn't necessarily be handing the victory points out, because some upgrades are useful even if you hide them behind a load of trees.
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 06:47   #6 (permalink)
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Yes that is the point, as a fluffy thing, it's just with the models i have, made up of spare bits and a mates exra marines... cost for the army was less than 200 bucks.

This is just the no imit sort of list, a competitive one will be made for the 1500 point Sydney GT in july, of which i'm sorting out now.
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 13:09   #7 (permalink)
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Yes that is the point, as a fluffy thing, it's just with the models i have, made up of spare bits and a mates exra marines... cost for the army was less than 200 bucks.

This is just the no imit sort of list, a competitive one will be made for the 1500 point Sydney GT in july, of which i'm sorting out now.
That's fine that this is just a list for fun made form spare models.

But in the alternative set up I've suggested I used only models that you had listed, I just redistributed them so they weren't actually going to be a hindrance to you just by being deployed! I just don't get why you would even in a friendly game take units that are actually worthless wastes to hand your opponent VPs.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 01:56   #8 (permalink)
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Yes that is the point, as a fluffy thing, it's just with the models i have, made up of spare bits and a mates exra marines... cost for the army was less than 200 bucks.

This is just the no imit sort of list, a competitive one will be made for the 1500 point Sydney GT in july, of which i'm sorting out now.
That's fine that this is just a list for fun made form spare models.

But in the alternative set up I've suggested I used only models that you had listed, I just redistributed them so they weren't actually going to be a hindrance to you just by being deployed! I just don't get why you would even in a friendly game take units that are actually worthless wastes to hand your opponent VPs.
I think JD just wantede to see how big he could make the list.......although I could be wrong
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well yea that too
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