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Salamanders 2,000 and 3,000 point lists
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 17:31   #1 (permalink)
Shas'El
 
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Default Salamanders 2,000 and 3,000 point lists

Ok, so I did the 2,000 point on ein Chemistry again today, and I did the 3,000 point one in study hall because I had nothing better to do...

2,000

Master
Artificer Armor
Iron Halo
Master-crafted Power Weapon
Terminator Honors
Bolt Pistol
Melta Bombs
Command Squad
171 Points

Codicier
Artificer Armor
Storm Shield
Veil fo Time
Melta Bombs
145 Points

Command Squad
8 Marines
2 plasma/melta [whichever I feel is appropriate at the time]
Vet Sergeant
Master Crafted Thunderhammer
190 Points

Troop 1-5
8 Marines
2 plasma/melta [whichever I feel is appropriate at the time]
Vet Sergeant
Master-crafted Power Fist [I might as well M-C it, becuase I usually miss the attacks that count]
175 Points

Venerable Dreadnought
Multi-melta
Heavy Flamer
Tank Hunter
Extra Armor
160 Points

Dreadnoughts 1+2
Multi-melta
Heavy Flamer
Extra Armor
130 Points

Attack Bike Squad
3 bikes
3 multi-meltas
195 Points

Total: 1,996 Points

3,000

Master
Terminator Armor
Master Crafted Power Weapon
Melta Bombs
Terminator Command Squad
155 Points

Terminator Command Squad
8 Terminators
2 Heavy Flamers
420 Points

Epistolary
Artificer Armor
Veil of Time
Melta Bobs
Iron Halo
Plasma Pistol
Termiantor Honors
Command Squad
220 Points

Command Squad
10 Marines
2 plasma/melta [whichever I feel is appropriate at the time]
Vet Sergeant
Master Crafted Thunderhammer
Apothecary
230 Points

Troop 1-6
10 Marines
2 plasma/melta [whichever I feel is appropriate at the time]
Vet Sergeant
Master-crafted Power Fist [I might as well M-C it, becuase I usually miss the attacks that count]
205 Points

Venerable Dreadnought
Multi-melta
Heavy Flamer
Tank Hunter
Extra Armor
160 Points

Dreadnoughts 1+2
Multi-melta
Heavy Flamer
Extra Armor
130 Points

Attack Bike Squad
3 bikes
3 multi-meltas
195 Points

Total: 3,000 Points

The 3,000 point list was out of pure boredom and to see how much junk I could cram into 3,000 points... The 2,000 point one is serious, but if you wish, comment on both...

Thanks...
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 21:01   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Salamanders 2,000 and 3,000 point lists

Looks like decent lists. Plenty of warm bodies on the board. However, your Masters are using MCrafted Power Weapons where Lightning Claws are much more appropriate, as these give a huge edge over T4-5 models.

Also, your Dreads would perform better with Assault Cannons instead of the Meltas___same range, yet has a much higher rate of fire, which decimates infantry squads and light vehicle squadrons much faster. Also, removing the Hvy Flamers wouldn't be a bad idea, as the Dreads don't have Drop Pods which allow to ensure maximum hosing coverage. Plain Storm Bolters or, even better yet, Missile Launchers___your lists lacks long-range firepower___would do the job more efficiently. However, since I realize that Meltas and Flamers are fluffy in 'Manders lists, you probably use the Dreads as you've listed them.

I'd also add a Pred Annihilator or a LasPlas Tac squad instead of the Codicier, as ranged antiarmor is always useful.
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 21:19   #3 (permalink)
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Did you happen to read any of the other Salamanders-related threads posted around here before? I should have put this in my original post, but the aim of my army is fluff over function... I do agree that the lightning claws would be a better idea though... Oh, sorry, I didn't finish reading your post before posting...

To compensate for lack of long-ranged anti-armor, I have the mobile and durable (I guess) Attack Bike squad with the multi-meltas... And I'm sure that my Dreadnoughts would be able to take care of things, as they're:
A) Distractions from my Attack Bike Sqauds
B) Tank killers in their own rights and
C) Not going to be concentrated in one place...

Although I should probably have some other kind of mobility at 2,000 points rather than relying on my Attack Bikes

I was thinking dropping the Codicier and a Tac sqwuad for maybe something like this:

Assault Marines Squad
10 Marines
2 Plasma Pistols
Melta Bombs
Vet Sargeant
Master Crafted Thunder Hammer
320 Points

Not exactly the fluffiest choice, but I need some function...
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Getting that Assault squad wouldn't be a bad idea at all___despite its expensiveness, one always needs some countercharging element in one's shooty list.
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