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Old 04 Sep 2006, 10:49   #1 (permalink)
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[size=14pt]Shadow Spectres 3rd Company[/size]

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Trait advantages: See, but donít be seen and Cleanse and Purify
Trait disadvantage: Eye to eye

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[HQ]

HQ 1: Commander Master : 125 points
- Pair of Lightning claws and a Jump pack

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[TROOPS]

Troops 1: Tactical squad: 199 points
- Veteran Sergeant with Bolt pistol and Power fist
- 2 Marines with Plasma Gun
- 5 Marines with Bolters
- All have the Infiltrate skill

Troops 2: Tactical squad: 199 points
- Veteran Sergeant with Bolt pistol and Power fist
- 2 Marines with Plasma Gun
- 5 Marines with Bolters
- All have the Infiltrate skill

Troops 3: Tactical squad: 115 points
- 1 Marine with Lascannon
- 1 Marine with Plasma gun
- 4 Marines with Bolters

Troops 4: Tactical squad: 115 points
- 1 Marine with Lascannon
- 1 Marine with Plasma gun
- 4 Marines with Bolters

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[FAST ATTACK]

Fast Attack 1: Assault squad: 206 points
- Veteran Sergeant with Bolt pistol and Power fist
- 7 Marines with Bolt pistols and ccw's
- All have Jump packs and Frag grenades

Fast Attack 2: Assault squad: 206 points
- Veteran Sergeant with Bolt pistol and Power fist
- 7 Marines with Bolt pistols and ccw's
- All have Jump packs and Frag grenades

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[HEAVY SUPPORT]

Heavy Support 1: Devastator squad : 168 points
- 3 Marines with Missile launchers
- 3 Marines with Bolters
- All have the Infiltrate skill

Heavy Support 2: Devastator squad : 168 points
- 3 Marines with Missile launchers
- 3 Marines with Bolters
- All have the Infiltrate skill


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[size=14pt]Army Total: 1501 points[/size]

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Army force composition: 100%
1 HQ @ 125 points: 8%
4 Troops @ 628 points: 42%
2 Fast Attack @ 412 points: 28%
2 Heavy Support @ 336 points: 22%

57 Power Armoured models in the army
8 scoring units in the army



This is my new army list I am going to be using to play most of my games. I tried to make a balanced list with only infantry units. This list has to be good to take on all comers. This list is on the same line with my army fluff.

Please give your helpful opinions, constructive criticism, comments and suggestions about this list, everything is welcome!
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Old 08 Sep 2006, 15:05   #2 (permalink)
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Solid straight up list. A guy can't complain about anything much on it. I know the only arguement that you could make is taking out the master for a MoS. However if i said that you would reply that the LD 10, outweights the re-rolls and fearless.

The only thing i don't know is if i would give both devestator squads infiltrate. I think i know why you did it though was for optimal position. If that pays off for you then it's a good decision.

The only thing i would say is are the 60 points for vet sgts in your tactical teams worth it? I'd probably rather add 2 more men to each squad than add the power fist. That's just me and i do understand why you took it for dealing with armor close up and personal.
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Old 08 Sep 2006, 22:07   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply.

You are right about the Master, I won't change him for any other Character. The LD 10 has worked wonders for me and the Master really fits in my army.

With normal deployment, you have to deploy the Devastators first. And with the Infiltrate skill you can choose when to deploy them. This ensures the safety of the squads since they are only 6 men strong. Now I can deploy them to face certain targets or put them in a location to keep them save from enemy assaults.

As for the Veteran Sergeants in the Tactical squads; the squads are geared towards Close Combat and close range fire fights. The Power fists are great for taking down bigger creatures and the occasional Dreads they will face. Most people use them this way and they have proved their money's worth for me.

Any thoughts about what to do with the special weapons in those tactical squads?
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Well with the power fists, missil launchers, lascannons and plasma guns your not likely to find yourself incapable of dealing with armor. The only thing that might need more than that are pure mech lists but in a take all comers atmosphere you dont usually see many of those.

Something to think about is that many of those foes you take on will be power armored of some sort. Marines, chaos marines, sisters, necrons etc. Thus the plasma might be the way to go. In fact think of this, if you give tac squads 1 & 2 each 2 plasma guns and their sergeants each a plasma pistol thats 5 high strength shots capable of felling terminators on the move and 6 stationary and even if they overheat they still get their 3+ save. Thus even if you encounter say a Deathwing army your basic tactical squads will chew through them or they can bust up light armor etc.

Plasma is pretty good. I have a friend who uses a very similar setup and what he does is use a plasma gun and plasma cannon in his tac squads with a combi plasma on the sergeants and plasma pistols in his assault squads. Some people go nuts over plasma, you dont have to but if your considering taking or not taking the melta guns plasma is a good alternative.

On the other hand if you think you might find yourself in a lot of Cities of Death games flamers could be an option too. The CoD rules greatly help armies like orks, guard and nids and being able to flame the daylights out of them could prove very useful.
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Seems Like A Good Army LIst As Long As You Like A Uniform Looking Army.

I preffer to have more variety of units because it gets boring painting 1 after another marines with bolters the seam. I also have see but don't be seen on my army (The Shadow MArines and think it is a gret rule.

Your army would do great against tyranids as long as you infiltrated in good spots and would kick orck buts The only other problem i see is the fact that you need to have one squad as a blocker. To hold the enemy back or keep them running, Terminators for example, great army!
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Old 09 Sep 2006, 04:45   #6 (permalink)
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Reading some more of the comments. I think that a plasma gun and melta is enough. I really think that you need to tak out at least one tactical vet sgt and power fist. You need points for four plasma pistols. Really look hard that those power fists on your tactical squads are making back your points. If they are not then i think there are better places for them like 4 plasma pistols or a few more troops.
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Old 10 Sep 2006, 19:11   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for your replies.

I think I am going for the two Plasma guns for both the two tactical squads, just like Vash said.

And yes I really like an army with a uniform look. I'll see what I'll do with the Power fists.

Again thanks for your comments, I have updated the list.

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