[C/-Rt3r]

Hq
-Runepriest w/ bolt pistol, power weapon

-Wolf Guard Battleleader w/ bolt pistol power weapon

-Vuln Dread w/ lascannon and missil launcher

Troops
-x10 Blood Claws w/ 2 powerfists and 1 meltagun rhino w/ smoke

-x10 Blood Claws w/ 2 powerfists and 1 meltagun rhino w/smoke

-x14 Blood Claws w/ 2 powerfists and 1 meltagun Landraider Crusader

-x6 Greyhunters w/ plasma gun

Fast Attack

-x1 Landspeeder w/ assault cannon heavy bolter

-x1 Landspeeder w. assault cannon heavy bolter

Heavy Support

-x1 Predator Annialator

-x5 Long Fangs w/ boltgn and cc weapon x4 plasma cannons

-Landraider Crusader (blood claws)

Okay this is the list i have worked out for a 2000 point gladiator tournament. I am expecting to take on some quite cheesy armies (which is actually encouraged by the tournament organizers) so i wanted to go with a fairly balanced list able to tke on most of those max/min lists. The plan is to run the runepreist with the blood claws in the land raider and the wolf guard battle leader with the grey hunters. The landraider adn the rhinos will advance towards objectives or whatever it is. The rhinos will use the landraiders as cover and try to hide behind that av14. The rest of the armies will form a fire base and lay it down thick into the enemy(hopefully anyway) The predator dread and landraider are the main anti-tank units. The ling fangs will be pretty nasty versus terminators and meq. The blood claws pretty much speak for themselves i think. The 15 man squad can assault directly out of the landraider and the two 10 man squads in the rhinos nearby can sit in the rhinos while the 15 ties them up and then next turn since the rhinos havent moved they can likewise assualt directly out of the vehicle. So any thoughts criticisms or whatever on this?

[Delightfully Emo]

Personally I would not use a LRC. For my army I only use it if I play my full 3,000 points. It is sucking up 250 points that could be used on comanders to give them better upgrades. Then I would take down the blood claws squad size by one and place the comanders in those squads that have rhinos

Originally Posted by C/-Rt3r

-Wolf Guard Battleleader w/ bolt pistol plasma pistol

Umm... Whats wrong with this? oh yeah two pistols. Basically a waste of his 4 attacks. Also not a very effective use of points. You are paying for his improved Ws, attacks, and Initiative, so why not use them better?.Even paying the few points and swapping out his plasma pistol for a power weapon would make him so much better.

Originally Posted by C/-Rt3r

-x5 Long Fangs w/ boltgn and cc weapon x4 plasma cannons

I would recommend 2 las cannons and 2 plasma cannons. With the seargent you can use the controlled fire and shoot a tank and the terminators.

[C/-Rt3r]

whoops i meant a power weapon and a bolt pistol..he. And i am gonna drop one claw from one of the rhino squads and run the commander with wolf guard leader with them.

[Delightfully Emo]

Good. If you have never done this before you will find out how much better it is to take out a 14 point guy to place the commander in their. On the charge 6 power weapon attacks would definantly be a major advantage. Expecially if your survival means you need to massacre into a squad a few inches away, in that combat phase.

Are you basing this list off the stuff you have or stuff you plan to buy? Also what stuff do you have?

[C/-Rt3r]

I have alot atm. All i am missing from that list is 2 rhinos and the land raider.
I have a squad of termies and a dreadnought with assault cannon i am not using as well as ragnar blackmane. I have found that i need to squeez 8 points anyway so will probaly do that. I can still take the two powerfists though right?

[Delightfully Emo]

Originally Posted by C/-Rt3r

I can still take the two powerfists though right?

for what?

[C/-Rt3r]

If i cut down the squad size to 9 and give them the WGBL?

btw thanks for all the help and interest.

[Delightfully Emo]

Yes you can still give them the two pfs. you can have one per every five rounding frations up. so if you have a minimum squad allowed you can still have two pfs.

oh and no problem, its what I am here for.