Tau Empire Codex 2013 | Army Builder Program
Dark Angels Codex 2013
Chaos Daemons Codex 2013
Chaos Space Marines Codex 2012

Warhammer 40k Forum Tau Online

 

Warhammer 40K Forum

Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...
View Poll Results: Please place yourself in terms of Conservative, Progressive, or Classic Liberal, and state your powe
Philosiphy: Conservative 3 8.57%
Philosiphy: Conservative-Classic Liberal 2 5.71%
Philosiphy: Classic Liberal 3 8.57%
Philosiphy: Progressive-Classic Liberal 6 17.14%
Philosiphy: Progressive 2 5.71%
Power Theory: Pluralism 3 8.57%
Power Theory: Democracy 8 22.86%
Power Theory: Elitism 3 8.57%
Power Theory: Hybrid of any 5 14.29%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Old 21 Dec 2007, 00:20   #1 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,460
Default Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Read the directions, please. If you like, say why you think the way you do, but please keep this to a poll- no debate needed.

Thank you.

EDIT: Clipped off my directions. The last part is "Classic Liberal" essentially means "Libertarian".

Power Theories: Elitism is rule by the top bankers, lawyers, judges, minds, etc. Democracy is just as it says. Pluralism is rule by groups.
GeekyGator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 Dec 2007, 00:39   #2 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Is the Politiburo smoking weed?
Posts: 5,144
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

I don't really fit any of the options.

I would best describe my political leanings as Economic Egalitarian Socialist.

That is everyone has a free/low cost right to basic necessities electricity water public transport. But must work for material goods that are not a basic requirement of life.

Hence basically I am a proponent of the 'nanny state' but one which allows a free market in non essential goods and services.

Genmotty
Genmotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 Dec 2007, 00:44   #3 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,460
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

I see... interesting. Well then, if you had to be labeled by your political opponents, which label would you find least disagreeable?

And what about the power theories?
GeekyGator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 Dec 2007, 08:38   #4 (permalink)
Shas'Saal
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Right behind you.
Posts: 184
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Hmm... Being an ex-communist semi-anarchist egalitarian libertarian, this poll is quite hard for me.
__________________
99% of teens have moved on to speaking Mexican. If you're one of that 1% who still speaks good ol' American, paste this into your sig.
Zerotrousers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 Dec 2007, 03:08   #5 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sydney Aus
Posts: 7,853
Send a message via MSN to crazedmongoose2003
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Progressive Classic Liberal (with the progressive part being more important and the classic liberalism being an after-thought) and democracy mainly because it screws up less than technocracy (or elitism as you say).
__________________
Holding a Tau Online Vassal League, click here for more info:

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...c,86474.0.html
crazedmongoose2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 Dec 2007, 13:48   #6 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,460
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Interesting results. More people chose Hybrid for power theory than I would expect.
GeekyGator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 Dec 2007, 18:15   #7 (permalink)
Shas'Saal
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 147
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

I also don't know where I fit on your continuum. I was a "Big Tent" Republican (fiscal conservative, socially moderate to liberal), before the Neos and Fundies forced the moderates out.

I'm all for equal rights, but not special rights, and if it's legal...it can be taxed.

And while I'd like to have a pure democracy, and in some ways it is technically feasible, too many apathetic and/or uninformed (when you're an 'and', may you get the government you deserve) people actually spoil the process. So yeah, I'd be be for a hybrid between Democracy and Elitism (as long as everyone was elite).
__________________
All the best freaks are here...Please stop staring at me!
Darkeldar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 Dec 2007, 08:41   #8 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sydney Aus
Posts: 7,853
Send a message via MSN to crazedmongoose2003
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkeldar
I also don't know where I fit on your continuum. I was a "Big Tent" Republican (fiscal conservative, socially moderate to liberal), before the Neos and Fundies forced the moderates out.

I'm all for equal rights, but not special rights, and if it's legal...it can be taxed.

And while I'd like to have a pure democracy, and in some ways it is technically feasible, too many apathetic and/or uninformed (when you're an 'and', may you get the government you deserve) people actually spoil the process. So yeah, I'd be be for a hybrid between Democracy and Elitism (as long as everyone was elite).
I don't think apathetic and uninformed people actually screw up the system. Because you can see from the results of the countries that have compulsory voting and the countries that don't that it's not really a huge difference, you're still depending on the informed, educated and such. The apathetic fall fairly evenly to either side.


Also, I think that a fiscal/social liberal/moderate/conservative would be a better way to measure somebody's stance in the modern political spectrum. I think (and I don't mean any disrespect) that Geekygator places too much importance on classical liberalism, a concept which most people today either don't know of, or if they know of it, like me, they find it irrelevant/unimportant.

In which case I'd put myself as a fiscal moderate and a social liberal kinda person.
__________________
Holding a Tau Online Vassal League, click here for more info:

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...c,86474.0.html
crazedmongoose2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 Dec 2007, 12:28   #9 (permalink)
Shas'Saal
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 147
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkeldar
apathetic and/or uninformed (when you're an 'and', may you get the government you deserve) people
Let's just say the words I chose, are not the words I actually wanted to use here because it would take volumes to explain what I meant, when persons will immediately call me an "*ist" without giving me time to explain.
__________________
All the best freaks are here...Please stop staring at me!
Darkeldar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 Dec 2007, 13:15   #10 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sydney Aus
Posts: 7,853
Send a message via MSN to crazedmongoose2003
Default Re: Political Ideals Poll- Nothing more, Just a poll...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkeldar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkeldar
apathetic and/or uninformed (when you're an 'and', may you get the government you deserve) people
Let's just say the words I chose, are not the words I actually wanted to use here because it would take volumes to explain what I meant, when persons will immediately call me an "*ist" without giving me time to explain.
Sounds like a can of worms.

But hey, this is Tau Online, we have a grand total of 6 minorities, 2 females, and maybe like 1 LGBT (okay, I'm sorry, that's a cruel joke FT), at least half of us are either conservative or libertarians and we've had some borderline (as well as blatantly crossing said border) discriminatory stuff said. So we're not very big on the politically correct thing.

The only thing we seem to be big on is reasoned arguments. So if you succinctly put together your explanation and aren't being hateful about it, I don't see how anybody has the grounds to persecute you here.
__________________
Holding a Tau Online Vassal League, click here for more info:

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...c,86474.0.html
crazedmongoose2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slightly different political ideas poll. Zerotrousers Serious Debate and Discussion 17 24 Dec 2007 18:57
Look at the poll below!!!! WH40K@1 Tau Online Comments/Suggestions 3 16 Dec 2006 22:49
40k dad poll Scizor Enclave Talk 13 12 Feb 2006 13:08
40K Mum Poll IVEATCH Enclave Talk 19 05 Feb 2006 17:41
POLL Shovah House Rules 4 04 Jan 2005 19:55