[Warsmith Tyranus]

I'm known as primarily a converter on these and the rest of the forums that I visit because of this. I absolutely despise painting. It's not that I'm not good at it, just that I don't have the patience nor the energy for it (all of my energy goes into converting). So I've decided to paint my new Ork army with a few things in mind.

• Speed is a must. Everything other then Independent Characters must be painted in less then an hour per.
• Quality is also a must. Tabletop quality or above on everything.

With these things in mind, I set about making some base rules that will help me achieve my goals.

• Dipping (both kinds ) and washes will be used extensively. Nearly no highlighting or shading will be preformed.
• No eyes. Takes up too much time.
• Block colors will be used exclusively. No nitty-gritty details.
• Dark Cloths, with the exception of squad markings.
• No touch up work. Unless it is a huge **** up, leave it be.

So, with that in mind, I'd like to introduce you to the first of my models to be painted this way. The dip was made with black paint and water, in about a 20:1 ratio, water to paint.







Painted in about 30 minutes.

Now I'd like you to rate him using a 1-10 scale, a little less then CMON standards, with 5 being tabletop quality.

[Mavfreak]

4. The teeth look really sloppily done. I mean, using just one color for them is acceptable, but at least manage to get the entire tooth painted if your not going to highlight/shade at all. Oh, and you left a mold line on his left leg

Granted, your pictures were somewhat close up, and I was able to pick these out easily; it might be harder to tell farther away. Either way though, fix those two things and you'll be up to a 5.

[Skullcrafts]

I don't know, I'm not so sure you're being fair to yourself here by asking us to rate painted minis that you obviously know are way under par of what you could do. However, if you insist...

I would rate the figure at about a 3 quality.

I can offer some speed painting advice though.

Use brighter colors than you normally would. Bright and warm greens for flesh. Bright and warm browns for leather and cloths. Medium to light grays for boots and other black clothing. Instead of making just a black wash, make appropriate colored washes for each color (green for greens, browns for browns, etc.). I highly recommend using a glaze solution with some matte agent mixed in (about 50/50). Then add in some paint and water (again, about 50/50). If you mix the glaze mix and watered down paint, you'll end up with a fantastic wash that won't blotch and pool nearly as much yet will reatin the powerfull shading qualities that comes along with this technique.

[Ratmamahatma]

I think the ork looks OK. I'm making 8 eldar guardians for over a year. Of course they look great (to me ) but this way it takes me years before I will even play this game for a first time So what I'm saying is that if you can make whole army one model per hour in this "OK" quality, go for it

[Thor{DoH}]

I'd rate it about a 4. If nothing else, clean the mold lines, they can ruin even the best painted model.

I agree with Skullcrafts, wash colors with the appropriate wash. As a fellow Ork player, I know the pain of having to paint so many of these but you can honestly get much better results with just a bit more work and not much more time. Your current 'wash' is ok if you want a really fast method but at least mix in some dish detergent to help break the surface tension. I can see it pooling up on his right glove and the bottom of the gun. You would be better served buying, if an option, the GW washes and breaking it down color by color.

With my Orks, I give them the base color, a slight highlighting and then wash each color with the appropriate wash. The results are good and it's quick to do. If you work on 3-4 Orks at a time, by the time you've washed the last one, the first is about dry and you can do the next color wash.

[peyo]

For 30 mins work its decent. It was already suggested that you use brighter colors and to that I would add; go for dipping. There is a good brand called "the army painter" they make a dark green dip that comes in 500 ml tins for about 22€, this is good for about 1000 minis, so you won't be running out too quickly. This is perfect for quick armies and would not add more than one or two minutes to your 30.

As your mini is I would give it a 4.5.

Basically without going to too much more work you could get those guys to a decent table top level.


cheers

[Scizor]

i use "the army painter" dark tone dipp for my orks, i just piant flat colours. it takes roughly a hour to paint 5+ ork boyz in these flat colours, altough i do it carefully and smooth. if you speed it up it gets faster, but less carefull. then i dipp them. keep in mind i do quite some details and differ colours included in this

[Wingates_hellsing]

Woops, wrong place, delete please. :-[

[Vash113]

Oh come on guys that's way too harsh. For a speed painted Ork I'd give it a 6, above tabletop quality but not by too much, from gaming distance i'm sure it will look fine.

My only real complaint would be to transition harder, the brown looks to bleed a bit too far than it should but otherwise it's not bad for a speed paint.

IMO Tabletop is the absolute minimum 3 colors required by GW to a mediocre standard. That's tabletop, anything above that is good but tabletop is respectable enough especially for people who really don't like to paint. I've certainly seen much, much, MUCH worse. If Skullcraft gives that a 3 I wonder what it would take to rate a 1...

[Skullcrafts]

Originally Posted by Vash113

Oh come on guys that's way too harsh. For a speed painted Ork I'd give it a 6, above tabletop quality but not by too much, from gaming distance i'm sure it will look fine.

My only real complaint would be to transition harder, the brown looks to bleed a bit too far than it should but otherwise it's not bad for a speed paint.

IMO Tabletop is the absolute minimum 3 colors required by GW to a mediocre standard. That's tabletop, anything above that is good but tabletop is respectable enough especially for people who really don't like to paint. I've certainly seen much, much, MUCH worse. If Skullcraft gives that a 3 I wonder what it would take to rate a 1...

I don't think I was being too harsh at all. The mold lines are visible, the colors look rushed and sloppy, everything looks like it was painted with the same colors with no seperation lines and even the metals fail to meet tabletop quality. What, I'm supposed to rate this kind of model (and be sympathetic) a 6 because it's being speed painted? I won't do that, I was being honest with my rating and even went so far as to offer alternatives. If that's being too harsh, sorry. I figured he'd want more honest answers than having smoke blown up his behind. Maybe my tabletop standards are higher than they should be, but I call them like I see them.