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Old 07 Jan 2007, 06:06   #1 (permalink)
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Default Red over Black Primer

My new Tau scheme is Red Gore with some blood/scab highlights, but painting it over the black primer is such a drag.....I take my flat 1/2" white nylon drybrush and put a thin layer over the black.....it absorbs it, so I have to continue with about 4 other layers, usually waiting overnight. Just painting my Hammerhead took me hours over the course of 3 days.....

There's gotta be a better way to get red over black, while leaving the model not caked (doing it in one layer of a ton of paint).

Help me out?
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Old 07 Jan 2007, 07:02   #2 (permalink)
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Wish I knew. Have exactly the same problem with the red gore over black. There's so many things to thin paint but nothing to thicken it up.
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Old 07 Jan 2007, 07:17   #3 (permalink)
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you just have to layer it right, I think a Red Gore, Scab rad and then Blood Red layering should do the trick. and don't forget to water down your paints, as you obviously don't want it caked on.
 
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Yeah....idk, its not a problem with my FW or Pathfinders, as I apply a drybrush of browns to do the clothing before I hit the armor.....with a brown basecoat, the red gore takes one, maybe two thin coats before its done.......I just can't do that with my XV or vehicles (a big deal since I play Mech....), I mean....I dont want embarassing spots of brown on my vehicles, right? Or suits?

Maybe I need to make sacrifices and just do it in that manner.....but I'm really trying to avoid all that. (I wish they had a Red Gore spray, I could finish my army in 2-4 weeks instead of 2-4 months :-\ )
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Old 07 Jan 2007, 10:32   #5 (permalink)
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Its all about layering, start out with mixing red gore or blood red with a TINY blob of black, to darken it down. Then add some more red and build up, then do atlest two layers with Blood Red as main collor. The trick is to get the black to fade up to red, to keep the black away. And GWs red is a little hard to paint with as you have to do quite alot of coats.
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Old 07 Jan 2007, 13:42   #6 (permalink)
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There are some other tricks you might want to try:

1) Paint codex grey onto the black before you start the reds. Codex grey covers very well, and isn't quite as dark.

2) For a bright red, do the above, but then go to fortress grey, adn then white, before starting the red. It makes it much brighter.

3) If the majority of the model will be red, consider using a spray to basecoat the whole model red, then paint black over the parts that you don't want red.
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Old 07 Jan 2007, 15:32   #7 (permalink)
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must insist here, DO NOT spray with any other collor than white or black! If you are going for a bright collour on the whole model, like eldar for example. spray the model white. Spraying the mini in any collor expect white and black will result in damage on the result of all other collors!
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Woe is me :'(

Maybe if I create some kind of assembly line system that isn't soul-numbing, the process will seem faster.....like, if I do one red coat on all the Crisis and Vehicles each day, and then in the meantime paint up Kroot and FW, which I have fun with and can do at least 5 of before I start speaking in tongues.
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Codex Grey is a great undercoat for painting reds. But If you mess it up it can end up looking really bad.

So dont mess it up ;D
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Old 08 Jan 2007, 00:31   #10 (permalink)
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must insist here, DO NOT spray with any other collor than white or black! If you are going for a bright collour on the whole model, like eldar for example. spray the model white. Spraying the mini in any collor expect white and black will result in damage on the result of all other collors!
Only if you don't reset to black or white first. Spray red, then hand-paint black on everything you don't want red, and you suffer no colour damage.
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