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Old 08 Nov 2006, 19:34   #1 (permalink)
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im thinking of starting warhammer fantasy. in 40k i played tau and tyranids.
what armies are like these?
what armies in 40k are like those of fantasy?
do all armies have flesh, or are some covered in armor completely?
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Old 08 Nov 2006, 19:56   #2 (permalink)
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That's alot of questions.

First, tomb kings are sort of like necrons. Orks are like orks. empire is like IG. elfs are like eldar. drwarves are like...... Tau are like a variant of empire. chaos is like chaos.

Races without equivelants in 40k are dark dwarves, vampire counts, lizardmen, dogs of war, bretonians, wood elves.

If you like nids, then perhaps you want goblins, bretonians, or lizardmen. If you like Tau, then a shooty empire, dwarf, or dark elf army will fit the bill.

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Are skaven good?
Was thinking of jumping from 40k...
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Old 11 Nov 2006, 12:22   #4 (permalink)
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Are skaven good?
Was thinking of jumping from 40k...
I don't really know first hand. I've heard much about them. One thing for sure, it won't be cheap. You'll need 100s of models to field an army.

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Old 14 Nov 2006, 20:25   #5 (permalink)
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is fantasy all that different from 40k?
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Old 14 Nov 2006, 20:33   #6 (permalink)
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Fantasy has a lot more to do with tactics, timing and positioning. Fantasy has a lot of similarities with 40k for instance.

wizards=psykers
monsters=tanks and monsterous creatures

In my opinion fantasy is the hardest game to play because you need pretty good tactics to do well here are some armies very similar to 40k armies that might suit you.

Empire=shooty
Wood Elves=shooty
Ogre Kingdoms=godzilla nids
Dwarfs=very shooty

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This will be a very brief post.

Few fantasy armies can eb compared to 40k armies. Swarm armies to swarm armies, shooty armies to shooty armies and melee armies to melee armies, although the extremities are very different.

Some armies are covered head to toe in armour, some are all bone, some are all flesh (with conveniently placed loincloths!).

Skaven are a very successful army, though they are considered cheesy, because of the shooty army's beardiness. The swarm army (ie outnumber the enemy 3:1) is very effective. I am a skaven general (win over half my games), and am seldom called cheesy, due to my lack of depency on clan skryre.

BAsically, WHFB is the far more tactical game of the core games. WH40K is simple. Move, shoot, assault. The moves dont have to be precise and you dont have to delare your charges til the end of the turn. I am not saying 40k isn't tactical. In 40k, you can be flanked without penalty (except that they gett the charge). In fantasy, if you are flanked you will probably lose.

that was far longer than I mad meant....
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On difference, which makes the game more playable, is there isn't as wide a difference in troop types. A knight is a knight, though one may have X and another Y upgrades, they are both going to hit hard and die very slow. Same for archers, infantry, chariots, and wizards. There isn't as many variables because the charts are less varying. For example, if your S3 infantry guy swings at a T4 enemy, he needs a 4 to hit in WHFB. In 40k, he needs a 5.

There are a few wildly strong, vicious things, but they are few which limits their impact. Undead dragons, bone giants, and hellblaster guns for example are all very potent, but you'll never see more than 1 of these on the table in games under 3000pts. And, even these baddass things can be killed by lucky shots and ganging up on them.

In 40k, a wraithlord or deamon prince for example, are virtually untouchable by the average troop. In other words, your kroot can't even wound them.

Hope this helps.

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