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Old 03 Mar 2010, 01:26   #1 (permalink)
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Looks like not alot of people bothered about the Waagh! Banner on the Nobs, so I wonder if anyone else think they're actually useful? For the amount of a Banner, you probably can take 3 Big Choppas or some Kombi weapons and maybe even 'eavy armor.

Basically how significant is an additional +1 WS? It seems to me you'll still be hitting 3+ for the most part, just that you have more chance to hit against people like Space Marines.
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Old 03 Mar 2010, 01:33   #2 (permalink)
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Given the number of Space Marines I find my Nobz in combat with, I think it is a good investment. It also gives you one more category for wound allocation. It also helps against mid-range characters with Power Weapons/Fists, since it drops them to a 4+ instead of the 3+ they would get from WS5.

Plus it looks awesome. I use the big Evil Sunz-looking banner from the Fantasy Black Orc box.
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Old 03 Mar 2010, 01:43   #3 (permalink)
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It also gives you one more category for wound allocation.
I'm curious about that, what does it mean? Like a Standard Bearer where it counts as additional scoring wounds or something?

And yea,I thought about the cool looking banner on the Nobs, it looks Orky. :P
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It also gives you one more category for wound allocation.
I'm curious about that, what does it mean? Like a Standard Bearer where it counts as additional scoring wounds or something?
When allocating wounds, you allocate by models with different wargear. For models with 1 wound, it doesn't matter much, but when you have a whole unit with 2 wounds each, you can put one wound on a "unique" model, and get around the "remove whole models when able" and end up wounding each guy once before killing actual models
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Old 03 Mar 2010, 02:01   #5 (permalink)
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Ah, I got it. Thanks for the info.
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I'm curious about that, what does it mean? Like a Standard Bearer where it counts as additional scoring wounds or something?
In 5th Edition, you have to divide wounds between groups of models with unique equipment.

For Nobs, it is possible to generate 10 unique groups this way. In this way, if you take ten wounds from bolters, you can put one on each Nob. If they were all equipped the same way, 6 failed saves would mean 3 dead nobs. With unique groups, it just means 6 wounded Nobs.

It isn't something you want to abuse too much, since it won't win you any friends. But it is useful to remember.
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Old 03 Mar 2010, 03:24   #7 (permalink)
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Looks like not alot of people bothered about the Waagh! Banner on the Nobs

Who are these people? And what is the shortest distance so that I may krump them for their weediness? ;D

Given the sheer amount of WS4 guys out there, a waaagh banner makes sense. It gives you a 1/6th percentage increase in to-hit rolls against such enemies. It is WELL worth the points on a large Nob squad that can easily put out 20+ choppa and big choppa attacks in addition to 10+ klaw attacks. It's probably under-pointed if anything.

Anyhoo, there are some secondary benefits too - your nobz will get hit on a 4 rather than 3 by such close combat nasties as Bezerkers, Grey Knight Terminators and enhanced Eldar warlocks. What's more, your Warboss, should he be with the squad, will benefit from the increased WS as well - allowing him to hit those nasties on a 3+ and protect him from the ravages of WS6 badasses like chaos lords and space marine captains.

Other than a painboy, it's probably the best upgrade you can buy in a nob squad.



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also, it makes for a great model. I like the idea of using an actual banner ;D
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I've always found it to be a good investment. pretty cheap for what it does
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