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Old 14 Nov 2009, 14:28   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help me expand my Waaagh?

Sorry Rewriting the Army list to how it SHOULD be ^-^

HQ
Ghazhkull Mag Uruk Thraka :225
Troops
23 Slugga Boyz/With Big Shoota: 143
23 Slugga Boyz/With Big Shoota: 143
Elites
5 Burna Boyz (1 mek with Kustom-Mega-Blasta) :75
6 Choppa Nobz (gonna swap these for another looted wagon) :120
Fast Attack
5 Deffkoptas Armed with T.W Rokkits :225
Heavy Support
Looted Wagon with Boomgun, AC, Red Paint Job, 2 Big Shootas and Grot Riggers :135

Total :1040 (did last sum wrong, :P)

Hope you can help now
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 01:08   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Jason, I would love to help, but first try to make an organized army list. From there we can help you out. The reason for no responses is because this post is cluttered. If you go to the army list selction in these forums then you can see how its done.
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 05:41   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with arsenal but we can still give you some pointers of course

If you're using ghazhkull then you definitely need more boyz. If this is only half your army then I recommend a loooot more. If you're doing groups of 23, then 3 more groups outta do it, points willing of course. Also, each boy nob needs to be led by a nob with a power klaw. These guys are the swiss army knives for all ork hordes. They take out vehicles, MC’s, and heavily armored enemies. (as well as keepin’ the ladz in check)

Burnas have a low armor save, are extremely effective, but few in number. These guys need a transport. A trukk will suffice but could also take a unit of 10 and put them in the wagon, then drive it nice and close and watch em burn! A trukk is more point efficient and will do a decent job, though.

Split the Deffkoptas into two groups. That way you'll still have killing power, but more maneuvrebility. You could scout with one group, then outflank with the others. Also, try attaching a buzzsaw to a couple and see how you like it. All the better for taking out vehicles.

If you need more fire support: take some lootas. Their high strength, high range guns work well. If you’re going for a pure close combat feel, then stormboyz would be excellent for closing the gap, but you’d have to take a big group of them.

If you need more tips feel free to ask! ;D
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 06:36   #4 (permalink)
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Well also, what theme would you like to run? A fast hard hitting list, a swampum list with horde of boyz, a shooty list or do you wanna kind of do your own thing.
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 08:50   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the tips Warpspiderman!

Arsenal1989: like i said, a mixture of goff and green tide (so basically stupidly loads of boyz and elites)
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 17:10   #6 (permalink)
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Looking at your list now (fine looking format) I say get two more squads of boyz, and have a nob with a PK leading each of them. have Ghazkull run with one of them. With the points left you could get a trukk for your burnas and maybe throw a couple more in.'

If you want to save some points, get rid of the red paint job on your looted wagon. You won't use it since you'll be shooting the boomgun constantly. 1 shoota should be good enough, too. No point in having something if you can't shoot it.

If you have any points left after this, add more boyz. If you're doing a green tide list with ghazkull you can never have enough!
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 17:47   #7 (permalink)
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Even tohugh it may not seem vital now, but eventually drop your big shootas with your slugga boyz. As in most cases you will running at your opponant. You may also want to expand to size of 30 boyz which will make it even harder for the enemy to get rid of your mob rule. After deciding on how many boyz you are going to run, from there you can determine if you want any shootas.
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Old 15 Nov 2009, 22:10   #8 (permalink)
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Ok thanks for all the help Warpspiderman and arsenal, you both have been an absoulte great help, so ive redone my list and i have made 2 lists now

Here is what i will make for my future hordes

List 1 (Green Tide and Support Based)

HQ
Ghazhkull Mag Uruk Thraka :225
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun :95
Elites
10 Burna Boys, 2 are Meks with Kustom-MegaBlasta (Ghazhkull Leading these) (transported in LW) :150
Troops
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
Fast Attack
6 Warbikers, Nob with PK, Bosspole :190
(If I need to fit the situation, I will take out one of the boyz squad for 5 Deffkoptas with TW Rokkits) :225
Heavy Support
Looted Wagon with Skorcha, Ard case and red paint Job :65
3 Lobbas with 6 extra grot crew :105

Total: 1,500

List 2 (Big Mek Army)

HQ
Ghazhkull Mag Uruk Thraka :225
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun :95
Elites
10 Nobs (lead by Ghazhkull)
3 Power Klaws, 2 with TW Shootas
Battlewagon with Red Paint Job, Ard Case and Armour Plates :405 (Ouch, a painful blow)
Troops
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
Fast Attack
5 Deffkoptas With TW Rokkits :225
Heavy Support
Battlewagon with Killkannon, 2 Big Shootas, 2 Rokkit Launchas, Ard Case, Wreckin Ball, Reinforced ram and Grabbin klaw :220
3 Lobbas with 6 extra grot crew :105


Total: 1,500

I hope this is good choice for both armies (although i feel its a bit wrong to blow 405 points on Nobz for list 2)

Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated

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Old 15 Nov 2009, 23:25   #9 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasonsea212
HQ
Ghazhkull Mag Uruk Thraka :225
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun :95
Elites
10 Burna Boys, 2 are Meks with Kustom-MegaBlasta
Dedicated Trukk with Red Paint Job, Wreckin Ball and Armour Plates :210
Troops
29 Choppa Boyz (Ghazhkull Leading these) :174
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
30 Choppa Boyz, Nob with PK,Bosspole :225
Fast Attack
6 Warbikers, Nob with PK,Bosspole:190
Heavy Support
Looted Wagon with Boomgun, 2 Bigshootas, Ard Case and Grot Riggers :130
3 Lobbas :75

Total: 1,499
1) Pray tell; how are you gonna protect that Big Mek with SAG from being killed in one volley of shooting?
2) Burna Boyz don't have Dedicated Transports so you either have to get it from Ork Boys (which will lead you to having one unit of 12 Ork Boys running across the table) or have a Looted Wagon.
3) Give that first Slugga Boys mob a Nob with PK and BP; more PKs mean more dead things.

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List 2 (Big Mek Army)

HQ
Ghazhkull Mag Uruk Thraka :225
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun :95
Elites
10 Nobs (lead by Ghazhkull)
3 Power Klaws
Battlewagon as dedicated transport With Red Paint Job, Ard Case and
Armour Plates : 385 (Ouch, a painful blow)
Fast Attack
5 Deffkoptas With TW Rokkits :225
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans, 2 with Big Shootas, 1 Grotzooka :125
Looted Wagon With Boomgun, 2 Big Shootas, Ard Case and Grot Riggers :130

Total: 1,500
So, where's the Troop Choices?
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Old 16 Nov 2009, 11:43   #10 (permalink)
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1) Pray tell; how are you gonna protect that Big Mek with SAG from being killed in one volley of shooting?
2) Burna Boyz don't have Dedicated Transports so you either have to get it from Ork Boys (which will lead you to having one unit of 12 Ork Boys running across the table) or have a Looted Wagon.
3) Give that first Slugga Boys mob a Nob with PK and BP; more PKs mean more dead things.

Big Mek will be hiding behind the Lobbas so at least he has some cover
Thanks for the trukk, ill change my LW to fit with the burnas
I've redone the boyz so they got a nob with PK now ;D



So, where's the Troop Choices?

Oh thanks for that, i forgot about them : changed them to have troops now
and don't forget the nobs count as troops anyway because ghazhkull is leading them
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