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Old 26 Jan 2009, 09:36   #1 (permalink)
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Default Horde Orks. Whats so scary?

Okay, Yesterday I played a game against an Ork player in a 1750 tournament.

Now everyone hated his army (i personally loved it) comp wise.

He had

Big Mek - SAG
Warp head
180 boyz in squads of 30 with a nob w/ PK
1 standard trukk.
4 deffkopters

Turn 4 saw nothing of his army left.

Why are people so scared?
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 10:34   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GoreChild
Okay, Yesterday I played a game against an Ork player in a 1750 tournament.

Now everyone hated his army (i personally loved it) comp wise.

He had

Big Mek - SAG
Warp head
180 boyz in squads of 30 with a nob w/ PK
1 standard trukk.
4 deffkopters

Turn 4 saw nothing of his army left.

Why are people so scared?
What the hell did you do to him?

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Old 26 Jan 2009, 10:49   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GoreChild
Okay, Yesterday I played a game against an Ork player in a 1750 tournament.

Now everyone hated his army (i personally loved it) comp wise.

He had

Big Mek - SAG
Warp head
180 boyz in squads of 30 with a nob w/ PK
1 standard trukk.
4 deffkopters

Turn 4 saw nothing of his army left.

Why are people so scared?
Supposedly, people don't know how to handle 6 mobs of Ork Boyz since everybody is mostly Anti-MEQ.

I'm still figuring it out how to do it properly with my Guard. For my Nobz, however, it's a different story.
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 11:03   #4 (permalink)
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Congratulations on adding a hundred and eighty-eight skulls for the blood throne. If your troops have the raw amount of attacks required and the superior statline to make them count, the green horde can be bagged and tagged with a minimum of luck. Well, much less luck than you'd need for your typical anti-MEQ army selection.
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 12:44   #5 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoreChild
Okay, Yesterday I played a game against an Ork player in a 1750 tournament.

Now everyone hated his army (i personally loved it) comp wise.

He had

Big Mek - SAG
Warp head
180 boyz in squads of 30 with a nob w/ PK
1 standard trukk.
4 deffkopters

Turn 4 saw nothing of his army left.

Why are people so scared?
It's the usual reaction for hyped propaganda.
When you don't know the M.O. of a build you tend to over estimate it.
It also helps if you played competitive Orks before.

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Old 26 Jan 2009, 12:44   #6 (permalink)
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Congrats first off. I take it you were playing khorne, if so that means you are kitted out to go toe to with the orks in close combat. You beat them at their own game that is all.
Unfortunatly his list is flawed, not 100% competitive and illegeal on top of that. Horde plus SAG doesn;t mix very well and will probably either not fire much or hit take out some of his own squads. The warp head is ok but not a tournament HQ either due to his unpredictability. The lone trukk makes no sense whatso ever and he cannot even take one in the list that you provided. And finally his deffkoptas are not optimized in squad size either. A horde list with Gazkull leading them is truely a fright due to his 2+ inv save and the fact that he cannot be instant killed. Or a BigMek with a KFF is also more in line with a horde footslogger list, since it will dramtically help keep the boyz alive. Did his squads have Bp???
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 13:28   #7 (permalink)
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Horde orks CAN potentially be scary. You simply came across the single most ill-designed horde ork list I've ever seen, and that's a difficult feat for one to accoplish given that 1080pts of the list is already written before one begins!
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 13:58   #8 (permalink)
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Anything can potentially be scary if your opponent's army list isn't competitive against it. Although building an army list to spam warm green bodies in quantities that your opponent can't deal with is perfectly legitimate and flavorsome choice of army list, anyone who depends on it to win their games for them will find their 'luck' moving against them when the game mechanics shift in the favor to their opponent.

The bottom line for people using these army lists is that they shouldn't get lazy by letting easy wins over unprepared army lists go to their heads, or they'll lose them.
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Old 26 Jan 2009, 19:18   #9 (permalink)
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Okay.... He won the tournament. out of 110 players.


Also how is it illegal?

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Old 26 Jan 2009, 20:29   #10 (permalink)
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180 boyz in squads of 30 with a nob w/ PK
This fills all your troop spots

Quote:
1 standard trukk.
Maybe we are misreading something here but you have no room left for a trukk boy mob

As for his list ... as already stated its not the best horde list I've seen but I'm curious as to what you were playing against it that you manged to wipe it out turn four. I've not seen that often and I've played Barbed Strangler Nids with Stealers against horde Orks. Mind you a SaG Mek and Warphead are pretty weak. No lootas, stormboys, buggies for cover, etc. Also a squad of four Defkjoptas is asking to lose a LD test. How were you deployed? What was the mission? His boys should hit your lines pretty fast. Were they sluggas or shootas?

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