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Old 11 Jul 2006, 06:22   #1 (permalink)
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Feral Orks can take into battle with them the mighty Squiggoths ;D, but what are the rules for their use. They are monstorus creatures, but they have additional crew in operate the weapons. In my 750 army I have a medium Squiggoth with twin linked Rokkit Launcha and a Massive Squig with 2 Kannons, 1 twin linked big shoota and 3 extra orks with shootas.

In the shooty phase do all it's weapons have to be fired at the same unit. An ork with a shoota on one side of the beast may target a different target to one on the other or the main guns..During the assult phase the massive squig gets 4 attacks but as it's weapons are operated by an independent crew, can they be fired at the unit being assulted or another unit or not at all.
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Old 11 Jul 2006, 16:20   #2 (permalink)
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A Squiggoth is not a Superheavy, so it follows the normal rules for targeting.

However, it is a Monstrous Creature so you don't have to worry about Target Priority checks.

This is why you want to make that squig really good against one thing, because splitting fire is not allowed.

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Old 12 Jul 2006, 04:26   #3 (permalink)
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May I ask what you used for a Squiggoth Model?
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Old 12 Jul 2006, 20:07   #4 (permalink)
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From my understanding when using a squigoth you have two targeting options. What you shoot your big guns at (all at one target) and what the ork crew with shootas shoots at (all at one target).
Because there arent any rules saying otherwise the squigoth can shoot everything before you assault (big guns) and your Shoota crew can shoot as normal at any target they can draw LOS to.

Another question I have heard is, can the Vehicle crew can shoot at a target while the squigoth is engaged Combat? The Vehicle crew rules dont address what happens when a Non-Av "troop carrier" assaults.
I bet a dollar if any Gw rule maker thought about it for two seconds they would say Vehicle crew could not shoot in this instance. (not that 1-6 shootas will strike terror into your foes)
But until we get a rule errata/faq.....
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 06:23   #5 (permalink)
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Akuma - that's the kind of rules I was hoping for >, how sweet would that be.

Flowerfall - I just use toy dinosaur model......not really that good. Forge world Squigg looks mighty cool but it's so so pricey and it only comes in one size > Tamiya do so 1/35 scale dino kits, the tricerotops
could be useful for a decent conversion, but I'm not sure how big it is?
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 21:36   #6 (permalink)
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excellent I will try that. I have seen a dinosaur with half a carnifex tusked maw head on one I might try that. But I can't find that stats anywhere i am presuming its on the GW site, but for the life of me i cannot get any of thier PDFs can anyone send me it direct E-mail? I have a link underneath my Avatar.

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Old 14 Jul 2006, 05:56   #7 (permalink)
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excellent I will try that. I have seen a dinosaur with half a carnifex tusked maw head on one I might try that. But I can't find that stats anywhere i am presuming its on the GW site, but for the life of me i cannot get any of thier PDFs can anyone send me it direct E-mail? I have a link underneath my Avatar.

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Have just copied the text from my PDF. It's a bit rough but i think you can work it all out. If not give me a shout and I'll try to do better.
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Thanks very much for that.Sorry if it seems slefish and all bhtu i can't get any of the Feral Ork suff could you please send me the Feral Ork PDF? is it any good and can those squiggoths be taken in freebooter lists or say any clan? or is just feral orks. Has anybody had anyluck using squiggoths.
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Old 17 Jul 2006, 18:43   #9 (permalink)
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For all you Orks who are a little thin on cash (like me), I looted a Squigoth process from a conversion/modeling demi-god on another site. (the waaughh web site)
(All hail the mighty Krooza !!!) He has a whole step by step process laid out with pictures for any who are intrested.

To start you need a roll of tin foil, and some modeling putty Krooza uses milliput (spelling?) I tried his process with greenstuff.
You sculpt the basic form from tin foil and coat it with your putty of choice. With even minimal sculpting ability you can create a sturdy, Bad @$$ model. Plasticard makes great armor and add in a few ork bits and you are in business.

I will try to get some pictures up later, but I am almost finished with the coating process, and I am only out 35.00 $ for a 14" long squigoth. I estimate about 15.00 $ more plus a paint job and I will be good to go....
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From my understanding when using a squigoth you have two targeting options. What you shoot your big guns at (all at one target) and what the ork crew with shootas shoots at (all at one target).
Because there arent any rules saying otherwise the squigoth can shoot everything before you assault (big guns) and your Shoota crew can shoot as normal at any target they can draw LOS to.
How do you make this determination?

If you'll note, the Forgeworld models have their artillery spaced evenly around the weapons platform. How on earth could you not split fire if your guns face four different directions?

As I understand it, each gun has its own krew and can fire independently. The additional shootaz can also fire independently. Pick your targets and fire!

This is not relevant to whether or not the squiggoth assaults in melee - first the shooting phase, then the assault phase. It's not aiming the guns, so there should be no problem.
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