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Old 08 Aug 2008, 03:43   #1 (permalink)
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I was just wondering how would you kill two squads of terminators?
I thought maybe destroyers will do the trick? ???
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 04:56   #2 (permalink)
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Well you are going against a 2+ save, so you will have to have a lot of shots. CC is not an options for us, if you plan to kill them, so we have to look at our big gun options.

10 immortals:
20 shots, 13.2 hits, 8.71 wounds, and 1.48 failed saves. Not that great.

10 Destroyers:
30 shots, 19.8 hits, 16.43 wounds, which would get us around 2.79 failed saves. Better but not awesome.

Heavy destroyers I would not aim at them unless I had to. Mind you their squad size will be small, so you don't have too too many to kill.

Personally, and I know I say this a lot, destroyers come out on top. They just have too many high strength shots at too long of a range not to use.
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 12:32   #3 (permalink)
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Well, volume of shots is a possibility (standard anti 2+ tactica). One other option, although unlikely to be that reliable, would be monolith particle whip. I mean sure SOUNDS good, but the terminators probably won't want to go near something with high strength ordnance. Perhaps deep strike it on em. Since there are two squads I could justify to myself putting such an investment into killing them. Also, I would dearly hate to have to hit them with 10 destroyers .
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 13:24   #4 (permalink)
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Well, volume of shots is a possibility (standard anti 2+ tactica). One other option, although unlikely to be that reliable, would be monolith particle whip. I mean sure SOUNDS good, but the terminators probably won't want to go near something with high strength ordnance. Perhaps deep strike it on em. Since there are two squads I could justify to myself putting such an investment into killing them. Also, I would dearly hate to have to hit them with 10 destroyers .
To be honest the Whip has never killed what I expected it to. It is a powerful gun, but it's scatters.
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 15:11   #5 (permalink)
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Yea, thats what experience has taught me that as well, hence the unreliable part. It may be effective but inefficient.
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 15:29   #6 (permalink)
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I have actually had good luck against Terminators with Scarabs. They simply have to roll tons of saves, and they're bound to get a couple of ones in there. I would recommend this only if they don't have power-fists, of course, since they would then be instant-killing bases.

That particle whip is actually fairly ineffective since it is only AP3, not AP2.
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 22:50   #7 (permalink)
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I think I would use destroyers for something else, while 40 rapid fire shots rains on the terminators > they are bound to fail at least 3 saves, so morale test and if fail fall back. Then they become less scary :-X. Would that do the trick?
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Old 08 Aug 2008, 23:26   #8 (permalink)
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I think I would use destroyers for something else, while 40 rapid fire shots rains on the terminators > they are bound to fail at least 3 saves, so morale test and if fail fall back. Then they become less scary :-X. Would that do the trick?
Your Math is waaay off. Out of 40 shots 2(3 would hit - which means that 26 shots hit home. 13 wound, which means about 2 dead Termies, not 3.
And if the Termies don`t fail their Ld test, they are in charge range.

So, no, rapid firing warriors are not the best solution to deal with a full-strength Terminator unit.

Destroyers and Immortals are the best choice, at least as far as I`m concerned

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Old 08 Aug 2008, 23:28   #9 (permalink)
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I agree. Destroyers are the safest bet. If you miss or they make all their saves, you still have another chance or two to get 3 dead models.

With warriors you only get one chance.
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Old 09 Aug 2008, 09:48   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks but what if termies get into CC with destroyers? ???
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