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Old 30 Dec 2007, 12:20   #1 (permalink)
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Default Wraiths or Heavy Destroyers

I want to push my list to 2000 and I have 150 points to go. I think I should get Heavy Destroyers but Wraiths seem kinda cool. I think wraths might pay off against stuff with a bad save like Tyranids and stuff. I dont know if they would be effective against Genestealers cause I could be making alot of saves but against gaunts could be good to tie them up. So I guess what I want to know is are Wraiths worth it? Would I be better off with H. Destroyers?
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Old 30 Dec 2007, 13:30   #2 (permalink)
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Well, unfortunately it's hard to say. Comparing Wraiths and Heavy Destroyers is like comparing apples and oranges, as they're two completely different units. Wraiths are very close combat-based units, while Heavy Destroyers are long ranged gunners. In the end it really comes down to what the rest of your army looks like; so maybe you could post what you've got, or one of your army lists?


It sounds like you face a lot of Tyranids... Personally, I'd prefer Heavy Destroyers against 'Nids, because they've got weapons with good armour piercing and strength, which are perfect for putting wounds on big Monstrous Creatures. Not to mention with their mobility they'd be able to stay out of combat with Tyranid hordes well enough.

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I dont know if they would be effective against Genestealers cause I could be making alot of saves but against gaunts could be good to tie them up.
Because of Rending Claws, you won't even be able to make your saves 1/6 of the time. And with forty attacks comin' your way that's a lot of armour piercing. ;) Forgot about the Inv. save that Wraiths have!

I could see how Wraiths would work well against 'Nids... They're very tough, which automatically means trouble for S3 Termagaunts, with a decent amount of strong attacks, but personally I don't think combat against any kind of 'Nids is the way to go. I think pounding the squads with a ton of Gauss fire would be more effective. Even the most combat-effective armies tend to stay away from hand-to-hand with 'Nids...
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Old 31 Dec 2007, 02:08   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Wraiths or Heavy Destroyers

The problem with your choices are one is a FA and the other is a Heavy Support. If you take Wraiths you won't be able to take Destroyers. Destroyers are most brilliant against 'nids. Wraiths are good but not great. (BTW, Wraiths get their invulnerable save against rending!)

Heavy Destroyers are good in numbers (six or more) but require coordinated shooting to be effective.
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Old 31 Dec 2007, 02:43   #4 (permalink)
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maybe you could post what you've got, or one of your army lists?

Here you go.

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...#msg1058398857

So then you guys are saying to be effective with Wraiths you have to use up all the FA choices with them and not just one unit?
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Old 03 Jan 2008, 21:24   #5 (permalink)
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I'd take the wraiths if your putting them in one unit, as I personally don't see the point of taking HD when you have the good old destroyers. As thanks to the gauss rule their glancing vehicles on sixes and with the amount of shots your pumping, you're bound to do well.

(I do know HD have gauss as well, it's just more effective with a lot of shots).
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Old 06 Jan 2008, 06:50   #6 (permalink)
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Heavy Destroyers just never need gauss, being high strength. I have often used both, and find that I am often disappointed by the wraiths, as they have trouble against large numbers.
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Old 09 Jul 2008, 03:49   #7 (permalink)
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you should get both, then depending on what kind of battle/army you're up against you should put the right one in. Also wraiths have rending claws? I don't think so.......
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you should get both, then depending on what kind of battle/army you're up against you should put the right one in. Also wraiths have rending claws? I don't think so.......
Who said they have rending claws?
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Old 14 Jul 2008, 01:11   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Wraiths or Heavy Destroyers

Well, wraiths are a pain to assemble, and you pretty much have to max out the unit, as just one is kinda meh.

Personally, Id go with the shooty option for most armies.
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