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Apocolypse Force: Kroot Assassins?
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 06:05   #1 (permalink)
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Default Apocolypse Force: Kroot Assassins?

With the dawn of apocolypse, I have one question to ask:
To snipe, or not to snipe?


Kroot Merc have one of the cheapest snipers in the game: 8 points a pop with decent leadership, and mild cover bonuses that allow them to be consistent in almost any terrain, as well as one of the best team leaders available.

My question is, should I? Would a kroot force, wherein all the normal carnivore kindreds are replaced with hunter kindreds, be a viable army?

My army plan is as follows:

1 Master Shaper with Wings, Eviscerator, BoTS, Favored: 123
1 Shaper council with HNO, PW/Evisc (mixed), BoTS, Sure: 275
2 Headhunter kindreds with HNO, BoTS, Sure, Evisc (x16): 268 each
6 Hunter kindreds with PW, Meltabombs (x10): 122 each
3 Hound packs with HNO, Evisc, BoTS, Sure (x10 + 8): 224 each
2 'tox herds (x10 + 4): 301 each

Comes to just under 3000 points.
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 14:36   #2 (permalink)
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Would be nice, but your Master shaper is going to get lonered with his wings.
But other than that, it is a very good idea!
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 14:53   #3 (permalink)
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That sounds like an awesome idea! But unfortunately you can't take more than one Hunter Kindred. There may be no FOC for Apocalypse, but you still have to consider limitations (EX: If you were to take a Tau army, you still need at least one Fire Warrior squad and one XV-8 commander as they are 1+.)
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 15:14   #4 (permalink)
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(EX: If you were to take a Tau army, you still need at least one Fire Warrior squad and one XV-8 commander as they are 1+.)
I know it is an example, but Tau cannot take Kroot Mercenaries.
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 19:20   #5 (permalink)
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I know it is an example, but Tau cannot take Kroot Mercenaries.
Though, it would be really sweet if they could! I mean, they already use carnivores, so why not the rest of the Army...?
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 19:53   #6 (permalink)
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I know it is an example, but Tau cannot take Kroot Mercenaries.
Though, it would be really sweet if they could! I mean, they already use carnivores, so why not the rest of the Army...?
True, but then combine them and you would have a great assault and shooting force.
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Old 19 Nov 2007, 19:53   #7 (permalink)
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I fully intend to use my Mercs with my Tau in Apoc. It's a friendly game were every other player has a Baneblade... why can't my Krootses have Power Weapons and options?

Hunters are amazing, but using every Carni squad as one seems a bit exploitative. I can understand the rational behind it though. Still using a few Carnivores almost seems called for. Not everyone can make their own Hunting Rifle, and not every Kroot is a half decent shot.

Pretty interesting list though. Those Hound Squads could definitely pack a punch! Kroot really suffer in Apoc. They simply cannot deal with the massive amount of tanks generally used. I'm sure you'll notice the army strain when you play. Worst is there's no easy solution, except for tons of first turn charging units with Eviscerators...
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That sounds like an awesome idea! But unfortunately you can't take more than one Hunter Kindred. There may be no FOC for Apocalypse, but you still have to consider limitations (EX: If you were to take a Tau army, you still need at least one Fire Warrior squad and one XV-8 commander as they are 1+.)
Uh, since when do I have to follow 0-1 restrictions? Are you telling me that in a 10000 point match between friendly gamers, I'm still only limited to 1 master shaper, 1 shaper council, and 1 Hunter kindred?

Have you even read the apocolypse book?
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Old 24 Nov 2007, 01:02   #9 (permalink)
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No restrictions of any kind apply to Apocalypse. FOC are completely out the window, you can do what you want. On that note, you CAN take Kroot Mercs with your Apocalypse Tau force, as allies. Just like you can have an Astarte and Guard force, you can have a Tau and Kroot force. Pretty much you can do whatever you like.
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Default Re: Apocolypse Force: Kroot Assassins?

Some how I missed that part... So I guess you could take a whole army of Hunter Kindred. (Though, you may not do very well, it would be interesting.)
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