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Knight Actual · 09 Aug 2009, 13:22

There is nothing fast about a Grey knight fast attack option. Daemon Hunters have access to a few options that can tag a unit in melee at more than 12", but i'm coming to the conclusion that pulling a seraphim unit from the witch hunter codex is probably your best bet.

Inside the DH codex itself, you can have gk terminators assault at 12+2+2ish inches charging out of a land raider. As we all know, land raiders are expensive propositions.

about the same point cost, you can have a squad of seraphim, which are good assaulters. - and still keep the GKs.

rough riders are questionable as they have difficulty in getting into position to charge without getting shot to pieces first. not only that, but we can only get it now after 400ish points of platoons. And they look horrible.

In terms of keeping the body count high - an already difficult task when GKs are involved, adding a land raider seems unwise. DH armies are almost always out-gunned, so enemies are in no hurry to rush into 12"/CC. it seems to GET the charge, Seraphim squads are the way to go...

Harbinger · 10 Aug 2009, 00:06

I wasn't aware that DH can take Sisters. The dex allows space marine allies but it says that you can't bring GK whenever you take space marines. Where does it say that you can take Witch hunters and Demonhunters?

viorlashasui · 10 Aug 2009, 03:15

The =][= codices allow them to be fielded alongside other Imperial armies. The WH one does, at any rate.

Rigel · 10 Aug 2009, 04:18

Also, the DH codex says its allowed to be fielded with Sisters of Battle.

Technically, SOB are any adeptus sororitas unit, so seraphim are completely legal.

(as well as exorcists)

MDRedeemer · 10 Aug 2009, 06:59

Exorcists are a heavy support option, I am pretty sure that DH as the parent army cannot take Exorcists.

Rigel · 10 Aug 2009, 19:55

Oh yeah. This is true. I forgot about that little heavy support snag...

sorry about that, but the other adeptus sororitas is legal.

Harbinger · 11 Aug 2009, 19:20

so essentially the only way for me to get assault marines in with my Grey Knights is to recquisition a squad of seraphim? I just don't feel right about sending in women to saw off the heads of my foes. I'd rather duct tape a jump-pack onto my grey knights and have them bust up some daemon scum. I guess I could play a Dark angels army use Shrike and 2 troops choices then use nothing but GK / DH allies for all my other slots but that's rather unfluffy

Gabriel_ · 11 Aug 2009, 20:29

Especially since Dark Angels can't take Shrike.

lemon-green · 12 Aug 2009, 05:02

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Originally Posted by Gabriel_

Especially since Dark Angels can't take Shrike.

Well he could, if he used the 5th edition SM codex (not the actual DA one though), painted them as Dark Angels then use a Shrike Count As.
But as he said, thats rather unfluffy...

09 Aug 2009, 13:22	#1 (permalink)
Knight Actual Shas'Vre Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,069	Fast attack! There is nothing fast about a Grey knight fast attack option. Daemon Hunters have access to a few options that can tag a unit in melee at more than 12", but i'm coming to the conclusion that pulling a seraphim unit from the witch hunter codex is probably your best bet. Inside the DH codex itself, you can have gk terminators assault at 12+2+2ish inches charging out of a land raider. As we all know, land raiders are expensive propositions. about the same point cost, you can have a squad of seraphim, which are good assaulters. - and still keep the GKs. rough riders are questionable as they have difficulty in getting into position to charge without getting shot to pieces first. not only that, but we can only get it now after 400ish points of platoons. And they look horrible. In terms of keeping the body count high - an already difficult task when GKs are involved, adding a land raider seems unwise. DH armies are almost always out-gunned, so enemies are in no hurry to rush into 12"/CC. it seems to GET the charge, Seraphim squads are the way to go...

10 Aug 2009, 00:06	#2 (permalink)
Harbinger Kroot Shaper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rexburg, ID Posts: 54	Re: Fast attack! I wasn't aware that DH can take Sisters. The dex allows space marine allies but it says that you can't bring GK whenever you take space marines. Where does it say that you can take Witch hunters and Demonhunters? __________________ You're the darkest burning star

10 Aug 2009, 03:15	#3 (permalink)
viorlashasui Shas'Vre Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,073	Re: Fast attack! The =][= codices allow them to be fielded alongside other Imperial armies. The WH one does, at any rate. __________________ "Brothers in battle and blood, In oath and honor, In life and death, In faith and in truth. Brothers in the sight of the Emperor. So be it ever, as He-on-Terra wills. Amen." - Prayer of Initiation, Knights Revenant attr. Captain Lucius Faust, 597.M41 "'Death before dishonor.' This is our creed, our way of life and death. Bolstered by the faith of the immortal God-Emperor, we may go into battle without fear for self. We know that whatever sacrifice is made in the name of He-on-Terra is not made in vain. Our honor rests in our service to Him, and we could ask no greater reward than to rest at His side, having given our utmost in His name." -Captain Anborn Tohr, after the Siege of Hydrax III

10 Aug 2009, 04:18	#4 (permalink)
Rigel Kroot Shaper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States Posts: 34	Re: Fast attack! Also, the DH codex says its allowed to be fielded with Sisters of Battle. Technically, SOB are any adeptus sororitas unit, so seraphim are completely legal. (as well as exorcists) __________________ Awesome Lordly Enigmatic Xylophone? Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

10 Aug 2009, 06:59	#5 (permalink)
MDRedeemer Shas'La Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 260	Re: Fast attack! Exorcists are a heavy support option, I am pretty sure that DH as the parent army cannot take Exorcists. __________________ Helios, removing anger from the galaxy one terminator at a time.

10 Aug 2009, 19:55	#6 (permalink)
Rigel Kroot Shaper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States Posts: 34	Re: Fast attack! Oh yeah. This is true. I forgot about that little heavy support snag... sorry about that, but the other adeptus sororitas is legal. __________________ Awesome Lordly Enigmatic Xylophone? Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

11 Aug 2009, 19:20	#7 (permalink)
Harbinger Kroot Shaper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rexburg, ID Posts: 54	Re: Fast attack! so essentially the only way for me to get assault marines in with my Grey Knights is to recquisition a squad of seraphim? I just don't feel right about sending in women to saw off the heads of my foes. I'd rather duct tape a jump-pack onto my grey knights and have them bust up some daemon scum. I guess I could play a Dark angels army use Shrike and 2 troops choices then use nothing but GK / DH allies for all my other slots but that's rather unfluffy __________________ You're the darkest burning star

11 Aug 2009, 20:29	#8 (permalink)
Gabriel_ Shas'La Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 410	Re: Fast attack! Especially since Dark Angels can't take Shrike. __________________ There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't

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