[Elessar]

Well i want to start a new army, I've got IG and Tau both very shooty so i wanted a assualtier army. Also I'm used to fielding loads of guys so i wanted smaller eliter armies. So assualty and elite-ish, obviously Daemonhunters. I love the models they're great to play with and paint only one problem, i hate the fluff. I don't know why the concept of teleporting in and killing daemons is cool, these guys eat Space Marines for breakfast, but i just don't feel it. So i wanted to go a completely different direction. But the only way to have greyknights in a non inquisitor army is to invent a whole new starsystem with its own empire and race who just happen to have the same army list as the daemon hunters, and well lets face it, that's stupid. So do you guys have any ideas, ill except anything aslong as you don't make them chaos

[Sargent Ceglan Varl]

i'm writing some fluff/stories for my army in the fluff/stories section check it out if you want to.
http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=12009.0

All i did was to say that the Grey Knights had been called to another system to help this guard army rid the system of chaos, so if you've played guard then you know how easy it is for their fluff, just take Grey Knight with inducted guard then you have a reason for the Grey knights to be wherever they are and for also being with the guard

hope that helps, sorry if it doesn't

[MalVeauX]

Originally Posted by Elessar

Well i want to start a new army, I've got IG and Tau both very shooty so i wanted a assualtier army. Also I'm used to fielding loads of guys so i wanted smaller eliter armies. So assualty and elite-ish, obviously Daemonhunters. I love the models they're great to play with and paint only one problem, i hate the fluff. I don't know why the concept of teleporting in and killing daemons is cool, these guys eat Space Marines for breakfast, but i just don't feel it. So i wanted to go a completely different direction. But the only way to have greyknights in a non inquisitor army is to invent a whole new starsystem with its own empire and race who just happen to have the same army list as the daemon hunters, and well lets face it, that's stupid. So do you guys have any ideas, ill except anything aslong as you don't make them chaos

Elessar

The simplest approach to an army that you like the feel and look of, but do not like the fluff of, is to change the fluff, so you're in the right direction. Personally, I wouldn't go about changing everything. However, you probably won't be able to keep calling them "Grey Knights" because their fluff is very strict in that they do not falter, they do not get tainted or turned or possessed. They either die, or win. You know?

So I would simply call them a new name. Perhaps think of them as "Sensai Knights" if you have read any fluff on Sensai. They look the part and they're potent psykers so it could work for you. Then you don't have to change anything or make stuff up if you don't want.

HQ - Sensai (grand master)
Elite - Sensai Guard (termis)
Troops - Sensai Knights (normal gk marines)
Troops - Sensai Knights (normal gk marines)
Troops - Sensai Knights (normal gk marines)
Fast - Sensai Knights Teleport (normal gk fast attack marines)
Heavy - Dreadnought / Landraider / Sensai Knight Purgation

Or you can just make something totally new.... maybe they're just an elite chapter guard of marines that were stuck in a warp travel or something and they just came back and have no clue how long it's been... etc.

Cheers!

[Sargent Ceglan Varl]

WOW i never thought of that! i might even use that as the fluff for my army, thanks mal!

[Elessar]

I was thinking of something like that use the stat lines for daemonhunters just change everything else. Except i want to change the HQ i was thinking they could be ruled by a King or Emperor of some sort but i thought it'd be more original to have princess that would add fluff. you know poor(yet hot) 21 year old princess protected by knights in shining armour, sworn to defend her the day she was born sort of thing. And a nice little rule for her: If she is killed all greyknights get 1+ strength toughness and attacks, if they then manage to kill every single enemy model next turn its a tie, if they don't its an immediate defeat. Sure it would be really hard to win since a vindicare could win the war with one shot on the first turn but it be fun. especially the last turn. Only problem is i dont think people would appreciate me starting a whole new star system, race, empire etc.

[MalVeauX]

Originally Posted by Elessar

I was thinking of something like that use the stat lines for daemonhunters just change everything else. Except i want to change the HQ i was thinking they could be ruled by a King or Emperor of some sort but i thought it'd be more original to have princess that would add fluff. you know poor(yet hot) 21 year old princess protected by knights in shining armour, sworn to defend her the day she was born sort of thing. And a nice little rule for her: If she is killed all greyknights get 1+ strength toughness and attacks, if they then manage to kill every single enemy model next turn its a tie, if they don't its an immediate defeat. Sure it would be really hard to win since a vindicare could win the war with one shot on the first turn but it be fun. especially the last turn. Only problem is i dont think people would appreciate me starting a whole new star system, race, empire etc.

Actually; people would be enthralled if you created that amount of creative background, away from the GW fluff. It's respectable and shows you're into your army there. Go for it!

Originally Posted by Sargent Ceglan Varl

WOW i never thought of that! i might even use that as the fluff for my army, thanks mal!

Sure thing man; They're knights after all!

Cheers!

[Seto]

I recommend reading the book "Grey Knights". It gives alot of information and fluff on them. You can find it at most big book stores, i'll try and get the author's name for you.

[~PathFinder~]

I once bought a termie squad from the grey knights and converted them to look like samurai, the looked SICK.* :P

btw the authour of grey knights is Ben Counter.

[Elessar]

Do you mean that greyknights and the deathwatch thing, or something else?