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Old 14 Sep 2005, 22:30   #1 (permalink)
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Forgive for asking this but are Imperial Guard good?
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Old 14 Sep 2005, 22:47   #2 (permalink)
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Seems like a dead end question, especially asking on a guard forum.* what do you mean by good?

Its like asking are kroot good, are marines good, are you good!?

A better question would be to asses their advantages and disadvantages.

Although im new to guard so far it looks like

Advantages

Lots of tanks and armour
Lots of troops.
Lots of massed (not that strong fire) backed up by bunches of heavy weapons
Cheep troops

Cons

Troops die quickly under mass fire
Not soo good in close combat (There are exceptions such as Ogryns and Rough riders but they are the exception no the rule)

Hope that helps
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Old 14 Sep 2005, 22:49   #3 (permalink)
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What do you mean? With what kind of experience? With what strengths? These are the questions you should be asking. The guard's strongpoint is at its big guns, and it's terrible in assaults.
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Old 14 Sep 2005, 22:57   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry about the vague question. What I meant to say were the pros and cons of IG.
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Old 15 Sep 2005, 06:01   #5 (permalink)
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Imperial Guard have a huge amount of firepower. The also have huge amounts of men. These are the backbone of the Guard army. If they die, everything else will probably die. They also have a vast amount of tanks. Such as Demolishers and standard leman russ'. They have one of the nicest pieces of artillery as well : the basilisk. BUT, having said this, they do have relatively bad balistic skill, meaning although they have massed firepower, they only hit half the time. They also have extremely bad armour saves. Many armies have massed amounts of AP 5 weapons, meaning that you will often not be able to have an armours save, although there are doctrines to counter this. They can also have vast amounts of heavy weapons ; my 1500 point ig army having about 20. They are pretty awful in combat, but if you take a unit of ogryns or rough riders, then this will counter that to an extent.
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As stated, we get loads of cheap infantry, loads of heavy weapons, and the best tanks in the game, bar none.

The downside is that our troops are generally weak, and accuracy isn't a strong point.
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if you like the style of a shooty hoarde... We're your guys!!!!
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Old 15 Sep 2005, 13:56   #8 (permalink)
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Or if your in the mood for an elite force of Storm Troopers and close combat ogrns we are your men
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It has already been stated that the Guard excel in massing firepower, bodies and vehicles. They aren't very good in combat and they do have poor saves but if you get lucky you could just be OK. They also get very powerful tanks, though not the 'best tanks in the game' as Wargamer put it.
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They also get very powerful tanks, though not the 'best tanks in the game' as Wargamer put it.
Name one tank that is better, and I will prove how wrong you are.

In fact, to save time...

LAND RAIDER:
Leman Russ is better, because it is almost as good at tank killing, much better vs hoard armies, much better at Marine killing, and is cheaper. Oh, and it can outrange the Land Raider by 24".

HAMMERHEAD:
Hammerhead is a skimmer, which is both a strength and a weakness. Better at tank killing (usually), but the Russ is much better overall, being able to seriously injure both hoardes and heavy infantry (which the Hammerhead struggles against). Also, the Russ has stronger armour, and is cheaper.

FALCON:
Falcons are very fast, and very powerful, but the Russ just laughs and blows them to pieces. The Battlecannon is magnificent at knocking Eldar out of the sky...
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