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Old 23 Jul 2005, 11:40   #1 (permalink)
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197th Imperial Infantry Regiment (Zyluss X)

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Command Platoon
Senior Officer, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Carapace Armour, Iron Dicipline- 76pts
4 Guardsmen, 3x Veterans, Medic, Meltagun, 2x Power Weapons- 53pts
Sanctioned Psyker, Honorifica Imperialis, Force Weapon- 62pts
Commisar, Power Fist, Medallion Crimson- 75pts
Total: 266pts

ELITES

TROOPS
Platoon 1
Junior Officer, 4 Guardsmen- 40pts
9 Guardsmen, Lasguns, Sergeant, LP and CCW, Grenade Launcher- 68pts
9 Guardsmen, Lasguns, Sergeant, LP and CCW, Grenade Launcher- 68pts
Total: 176pts

Platoon 2
Junior Officer, 4 Guardsmen- 40pts
9 Guardsmen, Lasguns, Sergeant, LP and CCW, Grenade Launcher- 68pts
9 Guardsmen, Lasguns, Sergeant, LP and CCW, Grenade Launcher- 68pts
Total: 176pts


FAST ATTACK

HEAVY SUPPORT
Leman Russ "Xenobane"
Leman Russ, Lascannon, Extra Armour- 160pts

Leman Russ Demolisher "The Breacher"
Leman Russ Demolisher, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Extra Armour- 190pts
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Old 23 Jul 2005, 11:55   #2 (permalink)
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First off, your Command Squad isn't legal. Veterans are not Officers, Storm Trooper Veteran Sergeants or Rough Rider Veteran Sergeants, and thus cannot take Power Weapons. They can take regular close combat weapons though.

Carapace Armour on your Officer isn't as helpful as it sounds, and unless your whole squad has it I would remove it and give him a Refractor Field instead. And to your Commissar.

Remove the Medallion Crimson, it's far too expensive. Like I said above, a Refractor Field would serve much better.

Are you planning on running towards the enemy on foot? A Chimera might serve well if you want to get into close combat (something I advice against strongly!).

Far too little infantry for my liking, but whatever floats your boat. I would get right of the Grenade Launchers and give them some anti-tank weaponry though (Lascannons or Missile Launchers).

Too many points are sinked into your tanks. I would personally down-gun them a little. Those Lascannons and Plasma Cannons are going to waste, since you'll be wanting to mostly fire their Ordinance anyway! Heavy Bolters are the best best-up weapon you could take for them.

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Old 23 Jul 2005, 14:35   #3 (permalink)
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okay thanks
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Old 24 Jul 2005, 08:49   #4 (permalink)
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Unique, your command squad had already been pointed out as not legal, but other than that, i would not waste the points on the carapace and actually arm you junior officers with something.... even a lasgun would be nice....

i think that the tanks should just take a hull heavy bolter if i were you, they are going to be firing there ordanance mostly, correct? well i'd make them cheaper, and get more models. a chimera would help in some places but isn't nescessary... here's my 1000pt list...

Cygnarian 401st

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Command Squad - 109pts
Senior Officer: Major Hafgrim with Storm Bolter, Powersword,
Veteran Medic with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Grenade Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Missile Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Lasgun.
Light Infantry.

Elites

Storm Trooper Squad – 136pts
Veteran Sergeant Eirik with Plasma Pistol and Chainsword.
7 Storm Troopers with Hellguns,
2 Storm Troopers with Plasma Guns,
Frag and Krak Grenades, Targeters.

Chimera Transport – 104pts
Chimera with Turret-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Hull-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Rough Terrain Mod, Searchlight.

Troops

Infantry Platoon Alpha – 235pts
Command Squad
Junior Officer Bjorn with Bolter
Veteran Medic with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Grenade Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Missile Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Lasgun.
Light Infantry.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant Alfgeir with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Sniper Rifle.
8 Guardsmen with Lasguns.
Light Infantry.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant Yngvar with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Sniper Rifle.
8 Guardsmen with Lasguns.
Light Infantry.

Armoured Fist Squad – 171pts
Sergeant Valgard with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Grenade Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Missile Launcher.
7 Guardsmen with Lasguns.

Chimera with Turret-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Hull-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Rough Terrain Mod.

Fast Attack

Pegasus FAV Squadron – 120pts
3 Pegasus FAVs with Heavy Bolters.

Pegasus FAV Squadron – 126pts
2 Pegasus FAVs with Lascannons, Smoke Launchers.

Total: 1001pts

Pegasus FAVs are vehicles which i use instead of sentinels, the rules can be found here http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=9478.0
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Old 26 Jul 2005, 17:28   #5 (permalink)
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well unique, i would add an armoured fist quad, remove a tank and take an anti tank squad, and maybe (if you have the points) a fire support squad. i would put some missile launchers with the troops , too. i'd also add some voxes+ master vox (or veteran sergeants is you prefer).

hope that helps

and as for warcaster, i cant fault your list. id use it myself

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Old 26 Jul 2005, 17:34   #6 (permalink)
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Another thing you could do it add an extra squad to Platoon A and replace Platoon B with 20 Conscripts. You'll have more strength in numbers, and more points to use to deck out the remaining squads.

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Old 27 Jul 2005, 11:20   #7 (permalink)
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I would keep the Demolisher as it was. I personally take a Demolisher with a lascannon, hunter-killer, smokes and plasma cannons. I find that this suits me. If theres a Daemon Prince with daemonic stature who can only be instant killed by a S10 weapon, fire the Demolisher that turn, if theres a load of Terminators bearing down your throat, then fire the plasmas/lascannon/hunter. Thats 8 shots at S7 or above... It's also pretty nasty against the likes of Transports (8 shots are better then one that might scatter off target in my opinion for such duties). Plus think of it this way, everyone fears the ordnance weapon and it'll probably be the first weapon they take off if they get a weapon destroyed result. If they do this, then you'll still have a valuable anti-tank/anti-infantry tank in your disposal. Anyways, just my thoughts
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Old 27 Jul 2005, 19:32   #8 (permalink)
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6 shots*

While that is true, Plasma Cannons are horribly expensive weapons.

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Old 28 Jul 2005, 15:59   #9 (permalink)
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i agree, they're lethal, and expensive, but it's up to you to decide if theyre worth the cost
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* 8 shots... 6 shots with plasmas, 1 hunter killer missle and 1 lascannon....
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