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Old 18 Jan 2010, 14:47   #1 (permalink)
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So I was playing against a mech guard army.

The issue arose about firing from the Chimera, and apparently it no longer counts as being open topped when firing from the top hatch. Whats going on? Its bad enough that Flamers fired from the top hatch count as firing from any point on the hull, somehow, but now there is no penalty for it either.

Is this a typo or what?
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 14:51   #2 (permalink)
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There's nothing about Shooting from the Top Hatch making the Chimera Open-Topped in the 5th Edition Rulebook.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 14:57   #3 (permalink)
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Theres was in the previous Codex though, and Codex trumps RUlebook. and now it seems that its been taken away.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 14:59   #4 (permalink)
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Theres was in the previous Codex though, and Codex trumps RUlebook. and now it seems that its been taken away.
That was the previous edition. Also, the IG Codex doesn't say anything about it being Open-Topped when firing from the Top-Hatch of the Chimera.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 15:03   #5 (permalink)
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Theres was in the previous Codex though, and Codex trumps RUlebook. and now it seems that its been taken away.
That was the previous edition. Also, the IG Codex doesn't say anything about it being Open-Topped when firing from the Top-Hatch of the Chimera.
That is infact, the very point im making.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 15:06   #6 (permalink)
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Theres was in the previous Codex though, and Codex trumps RUlebook. and now it seems that its been taken away.
That was the previous edition. Also, the IG Codex doesn't say anything about it being Open-Topped when firing from the Top-Hatch of the Chimera.
That is infact, the very point im making.
Case close; Any Transports that have the models within firing from its top hatch or any firing point does not count as being Open-Topped in the opponent's Shooting Phase.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 15:42   #7 (permalink)
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Seems that Jayne was grumbling / questioning the reasoning behind this change more than arguing that it wasn't valid.

I agree the Chimera not being open topped when the top is open enough for 5 guys to shoot out seems pretty unrealistic, but such it is. I'd say it's certainly a big part of the reason behind the IG mechanized explosion that we've seen. There's just no reason not to go mech with cheap transports that don't cost you significant firepower.
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 15:49   #8 (permalink)
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Iv also discovered that Autocannon Turret/Heavy Bolter Chimeras are incredibly annoying.
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*Farsight looks at Dawn Blade* "Shiny..."*Farsight picks up Dawn Blade and looks around* "... let's be bad guys."
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 15:52   #9 (permalink)
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Autocannon turrets aren't in the codex are they? Isn't that a forgeworld upgrade? Just say you won't allow FW stuff. >
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 16:02   #10 (permalink)
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I like the FW stuff though. Plus I use it, TX42s, Fusionhead, Remoras and Shas'O R'myr from time to time. FW stuff add great variety to the game, and saying "No i dont want you to use that bit because it beats me." isnt helping me construct strategy.
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*Farsight looks at Dawn Blade* "Shiny..."*Farsight picks up Dawn Blade and looks around* "... let's be bad guys."
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