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Old 21 Nov 2009, 16:14   #1 (permalink)
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Default Shotguns or not?

Good/Bad idea: Replace all the veterans lasguns w/ shotguns? Add in their normal special weapons and a chimeria. This unit is going to move around alot anyway so why not right?
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 16:48   #2 (permalink)
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It really depends. I use lasguns normally but I have a flamer veteran squad with shotguns who climb out flame shoot and assault what's left (depending on vehicle moving...)
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Old 21 Nov 2009, 21:29   #3 (permalink)
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Shotguns have the mobility and rate of fire, so if your planning on getting upclose and personal, then yeah, shotguns work out better then lasguns.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 13:14   #4 (permalink)
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Depends on your oponent.

Shotguns when playing against melee type armies like Tyranids yet lascannons etc when playing against range orientated armies like Tau.

Also your tactics may also benefit one or the other and the other units in your list may work better alongside one sort than the other.

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Old 22 Nov 2009, 15:49   #5 (permalink)
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I tend to stray away from shotguns. Personally, the new chimera rules are incredibly useful when combined with veterans. I give my veterans three plasmaguns and a lascannon, and plonk them down inside the chimera. Using the top hatch of the Chimera, I'm able to fire all those weapons and a lasgun. Mobility isn't an issue, I'd want to hunker down!

I have seen shotguns being used well before. Veteran squad with three flamers and shotguns in a Valkyrie. Dropped beside a large mob of Orks or squad of Gaunts. With the new template rules, you are getting a ridiculous amount of hits, and obliterating a unit that would soak up turns and turns of shooting.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 15:54   #6 (permalink)
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Only reason you want Shotguns over Lasguns is that you want to Assault after shooting.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 20:33   #7 (permalink)
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Shotguns. As you said you'll be moving a bit so RoF is constant. As said earlier if you're not moving lasguns work better but sometimes its best to assault something rather than be assaulted & that extra volley of fire can be the differance between holding up a unit & being a speed bump. Who knows? You might even win.
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Old 23 Nov 2009, 11:22   #8 (permalink)
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Hey thanks for all the help. Good to weigh my options.
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Old 23 Nov 2009, 13:43   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Shotguns or not?

I use shotguns in my one veteran squad since their job is to drive up in a chimera, jump out, and then shoot/flamer a unit to death. If I did that will lasguns the result woudl eb the same. So, I only use shotuns because I think they are cool/different. The rest of my vets have lasguns because they need the range.
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 19:07   #10 (permalink)
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Depends on your oponent.

Shotguns when playing against melee type armies like Tyranids yet lascannons etc when playing against range orientated armies like Tau.
Surely this should be the other way round?
As if your playing against a melee based army you should use lasguns, as their extra range over sotguns lets you get possibly one more round of shooting before your vets get mobbed.
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