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tank legion, is it possible??
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 14:43   #31 (permalink)
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*makes notes* whats that about???
 
Old 03 Oct 2004, 18:15   #32 (permalink)
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Well, Fire Eater, it was my subtle way of saying I am here, I am watching what you are doing, and that you two are up sh*t creek without a paddle... hence the warnings you and Kais got.
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I thought that the armoured company list in WD was chapter approved. Anyway.

The great thing about the armoured battlegroup from IAVOL1 is that you can add air support in the form of valkyrie transports and in the form of heavy support choices.

You also get to use Sentry guns. Artillery strikes such as a manticore strike or mortor battery site which can be placed anywhere the forward observer can see(this is usually the command tank).

Weapons platforms and cyclops are also nice little additions.

Unlike the lists in WD(the old one at least) this one can include sentinals.

All in all its a pretty good list with far more unit options than the WD version but you don't get the doctrines but still i'd rather use this list than have the doctrines.

On the point of IA, the destoyer tank hunters laser destroyer says that it doesn't use the ordnance template and you roll to hit using the crew's bs rather than scattering. It then goes on to say if it hits resolve the damage as an ordnance hit which would suggest to me that you dont in fact use the template(as it says you don't) but just get to roll 2d6 for armour penetration against vehicles and use the ordnance damage table etc. What do you think on this?.
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On the point of IA, the destoyer tank hunters laser destroyer says that it doesn't use the ordnance template and you roll to hit using the crew's bs rather than scattering. It then goes on to say if it hits resolve the damage as an ordnance hit which would suggest to me that you dont in fact use the template(as it says you don't) but just get to roll 2d6 for armour penetration against vehicles and use the ordnance damage table etc. What do you think on this?.
I can only assume you're using the old IA, as in IAvol1, it says it uses an Ordnance marker.
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Old 04 Oct 2004, 00:32   #35 (permalink)
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No that was out of IAVOL1, the big 40 blue book, hardback.

Also the laser destroyer entry in the chapter approved list in WD (so yep it is 100% legal) says that it uses the small blast marker.

So thats three different variations so far, ive e-mailed GW about it, but im not sure if i can rely on the answer i get back from them.
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Ok i had to send a few e-mails as the answers i was getting back were just obvious rubbish, one even said it was barrage,please.

Anyway after e-mailing back and telling them they are wrong they got the boss hobby specialist to e-mail me.

They said that the forgeworld varients don't reflect what the design team wan't(the official GW design team) and they aren't an official source(which it does say in IA).

The chapter approved article in wd 289 i think it is, is the correct entry so it rolls to hit use bs skill. uses the small blast template and gets none of the benefits of ordnance. Hope this helps.
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Well whenever I've used the Destroyer in the GW stores, it's used the Ordnance marker (but still rolls to hit with its Bs).
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Thing is this rule is only a few months old, was out in august this year so it's not been around long.

That's the thing about GW staff, they know no more, usually less than most gamers ive seen them hire people that have no knowledge of the game. Even those that claim they do know the game really don't know much, i was playing one game against marines with my orks and my nob with powerclaw attacked killing 3 marines the lad i was playing starts rolling for saves, i tell him he doesn't get them so he asks 2 staff members who both also claim that you get saves off power claws but not power fists(they said they are completely different and that claws only doubled your strength), i had to show them claw entries in both the old chaos(new one wasn't out at the time) and the ork codex to persuade them that they allow no save.
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tell me which GW it is (so i will never go there)

also we are getting kinda off topic here, with power claws and stuff
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No change there then! ;D

But you do have a point, this topic has wandered far from the original point (which I can no-longer remember...).

So, I'll lock it. If anyone wants it re-opened, PM me and I'll discuss it.
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