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Old 20 Jun 2009, 14:26   #1 (permalink)
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How is it that the vendetta can carry as many troops as a Valkyrie? other models that exchange there weapons for lascannons lose out on a few seats, ie the land raider, capacity 10, take out the lascannons and make it into a crusader, transport capacity 16, and it is specifically stated that this is because there are no lascannon capacitors, surely the 3 vendetta Godhammers should take up some internal space?
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Old 20 Jun 2009, 15:21   #2 (permalink)
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[list type=decimal][*]Nowhere is it stated that the Vendetta uses "Godhammer' pattern lascannons. [*]Infantry-portable lascannons have smaller, portable power supplies.[*]The Razorback has to fit ammo feeds and turret rotation equipment, annexing some transport capacity.[*]Ergo, the Vendetta uses lascannons with small power supplies, possibly built into their mountings.[/list]
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Old 20 Jun 2009, 15:45   #3 (permalink)
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I know I haven't really earned the right to argue with a mod, but some clarification would be appreciated.

I was under the impression that a Godhammer was simply any twin-linked lascannon. if it isn't then what is it?

The vendetta lascannons are vehicle mounted not infantry portable.

I concede the point on the razorback. Although my example was a Land Raider.

And why would the vendetta use smaller powerpacks? plus, surely any model with a smaller powerpack would have a less powerful weapon? infantry or vehicle mounted, a lascannon is the same strength and AP.

I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful. I'm just looking for a fair explanation.
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Old 20 Jun 2009, 16:07   #4 (permalink)
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The ability to defend your position is not something you have to earn; in fact, it's expected that you do.

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I was under the impression that a Godhammer was simply any twin-linked lascannon. if it isn't then what is it?
In fluff, a Godhammer-type Lascannon is substantially more powerful than a regular Lascannon; Land Raider squadrons are capable of hunting enemy Titans and War Machines for this reason.

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The vendetta lascannons are vehicle mounted not infantry portable.
The fact that they are mounted on a vehicle does not preclude the possibility they could be the same type that are carried by foot soldiers. In fact, in 40k many vehicular weapons are simply fixed versions of their infantry counterparts.

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I concede the point on the razorback. Although my example was a Land Raider.
I brought up the Razorback because you mentioned that "other models that exchange there (sic) weapons for lascannons [...]".

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And why would the vendetta use smaller powerpacks?
Portability, limitations of the airframe, any number of reasons.

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plus, surely any model with a smaller powerpack would have a less powerful weapon? infantry or vehicle mounted, a lascannon is the same strength and AP.
Not necessarily; a smaller power supply could simply indicate a smaller ammunition capacity.

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Not sure aobut fluff reasons, but game reason is pretty simple. Guard units cannot take less than full squads in the new book, so making a varied transport capacity doesn't make sense from a game mechanic point of view.

Fluff-wise, could be lots of reasons, form they just have a more limited number of shots to it bieng relativly less powerful than the godhammer model lascannons. While they might not make much diffrence when it comes to your standard 40k game, it might be something to consider for the Apocolypse game table.
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Old 20 Jun 2009, 18:27   #6 (permalink)
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In those cases i guess it does make sense. thank you for explaining these things.
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Old 22 Jun 2009, 22:00   #7 (permalink)
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smaller power packs and lighter weapon design is as fluffy as it can be when you consider its an Aircraft thats supposed to Fly. and the mounts and packs are on the Wings, not inside the transport space. simple
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