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Old 09 Jun 2009, 13:44   #1 (permalink)
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Default My Guardsmen suck! Advice requested...

So, with the new Codex out and everything, I thought it'd be a good idea to get my Guard armies sorted. With the help of this thread I'd intended to get a theme going for each type of army and work from there.

However, at the weekend I decided to catalogue my Imperial Guard models and came to the horrifying conclusion that I don't actually own enough models of any one regiment to form a 1500 point army that I want to play. I've spread myself too thinly between them. Whilst some people wouldn't have an issue with this, and would play with all the models at their disposal (like I've been doing), it's something I now want to rectify.

Here's my total list of models:

Catachans

9 Lasguns
3 Sergeants
1 Meltagun
2 Grenade Launchers
6 Sniper Rifles
6 Demo Charges
4 Heavy Flamers
2 Heavy Bolter HWTs
3 Mortar HWTs
1 Lascannon HWT
7 Missile Launcher HWTs
1 Vox Caster
1 Standard Bearer
2 Officers
1 Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken
2 Sly Marbos

Valhallan

29 Lasguns
3 Sergeants
2 Flamers
2 Missile Launcher HWTs
1 Officer
1 Colonel Chenkov

Praetorians

44 Lasguns
5 Sergeants
1 Flamer
1 Meltagun
4 Grenade Launchers
2 Heavy Bolter HWTs
1 Mortar HWT
4 Lascannon HWTs
1 Autocannon HWT
2 Vox Casters
2 Standard Bearers
2 Officers

'Penal Legion'

These guys comprise of Catachan legs, bodies and arms, and Cadian heads.

39 Lasguns
4 Flamers

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Note that the majority of the Stormtroopers are nominally for my Inquisitorial armies rather than my Guard.

1 squad of Steel Legion (Grenade Launcher + Missile Launcher) - still sealed in cellophane wrapper
1 squad of metal Cadians (Flamer + Heavy Bolter)
1 squad of Tallarns (Melta Gun + Autocannon)
1 squad of Mordians (Grenade Launcher + Lascannon)
3 more Mordians w/Lasguns
1 more Mordian Grenade Launcher
1 Mordian Officer
Nork Deddog
Commissar Yarrick (old model, with pincer-style Power Klaw)
4 Ogryns
10 Ratlings
37 Stormtroopers w/Hellguns
6 STs w/Plasma Guns
2 STs w/Flamers
3 STs w/Grenade Launchers
1 ST w/Melta Gun
5 ST Sergeants
1 ST Heavy Bolter HWT
4 Commissars (+ 2 more once I get legs for them)
2 Chimeras
1 Chimedon
1 Chimerax
1 Chimerro
2 Scout Sentinels
3 Armoured Sentinels
10 Rough Riders
1 Hellhound
4 Leman Russes
1 Leman Russ Exterminator
2 Leman Russ Demolishers
4 Basilisks
1 Griffon
1 Hydra
2 complete sets of Last Chancers

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I'm getting the feeling that trying to do Valhallans in any shape or form would be far too expensive to consider, particularly if I try and do them how I want to do them (which is going by their background and thus including lots of Conscripts).

My Praetorians seem to be in the best position to be made into an army, without having to spend too much extra money, as I seem to have more of them than any other models. Still, even that seems like an uphill struggle (especially with the fact that they're now OOP).

My Catachans need a lot of shoring up, but that seems easy enough to do with all the plastic boxes available.

As for the extras (the 'Penal Legion&#39, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with those. I suppose I could prise off the heads and glue Catachan heads on in their stead (if I can find them).

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I suppose this is a combined rant and plea for help here. I don't really want to spend too much to make any of these into an appreciable army but it seems like I'm going to have difficulty doing it anyway.l
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Old 09 Jun 2009, 13:50   #2 (permalink)
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That's a tough one,

You could go "Armor Heavy", between you LRBT's and Basilisks, you could easily reach 1,200 points. That would allow you to use any of your themes units as troop fillers.

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Old 09 Jun 2009, 14:59   #3 (permalink)
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I field both Catachans and cadians in my guard army, I use the cadians in platoons and Catachans as veterans, there is nothing wrong with having a platoon of cadians, and a seperate platoon of Valhallans and Praetorians, remember the guard fights with alot of mixed elements (remember Tanks are not part of the same company).
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Old 09 Jun 2009, 15:02   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 33rd Sirican Redbacks
there is nothing wrong with having a platoon of cadians, and a seperate platoon of Valhallans and Praetorians
I know this and acknowledge that it is viable. However, it's not what I'm after; I want to have armies made up of a single type.
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Old 09 Jun 2009, 15:04   #5 (permalink)
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For those hard-to-get models, play Mechanized Veteran Infantry. For your Catachans, you can get more models so a standard horde-IG list.
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Old 10 Jun 2009, 00:03   #6 (permalink)
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I think you can do a decent Praetorians, I'm thinking of a Zulu theme
HQ 1Company command squad (Micheal Cane's character)
1 Lord Commissar (the guy who took command)
Elites
Ratling Snipers ( the Cook and his helpers)
Troops
2 Vet squads armed as you like
1 Infantry platoon with Command squad and two infantrysquads and 1 heavy weapon squad
3 penal Legion Squads ( to represent native levies)
Fast Attack
Sentinels

Heavy Support

Leman Russ or basilisk

Fill any leftover points go to chimera's

Hope this helps a little.
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Old 10 Jun 2009, 12:21   #7 (permalink)
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Masked Thespian,

Don't forget that fluff can be your friend too. In long campaigns it is not uncommon for multiple remnant units to be combined into a new "Combined Regiment" as the needs of the theatre dictate. You can have squads from multiple armies so long as this 'patchwork quilt' theme is followed in your backstory.

I hope that helps,
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