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Old 07 Jun 2009, 20:53   #1 (permalink)
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Default Got a couple of questions here...

Ok, after finally getting my hands on the new guard codex these questions have popped up:

In the old guard Codex, commissars could purchase and use carapace armor, can they still do so?

Same with officers.

can a Squad's Sergeant be upgraded to a Vet. Sgt and use Carapace armor?

and then finally: the combined squads means I could have up to 205 men if I wanted as a troops choice?
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 21:04   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Got a couple of questions here...

Commissars can't have carapace armour since they cannot choose stuff from the armoury (and they aren't independent characters).

IIRC the company command squad can have carapace armour, all the upgrades are listed next to the squad later in the book.

Sgt's cannot use carapace armour for the same reason commissars can't.

IIRC combined squads can only include the infantry squads (maybe the command squads also).

I'm working from memory here, so apologies in advance if I'm wrong.
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 21:12   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Got a couple of questions here...

it said I could combine Squads, and I was wondering if I could have a single 100 man "squad" as a troops choice(105 when adding command squad)
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Default Re: Got a couple of questions here...

You can only combine the infantry squads from the same platoon. So if you have 2 platoons, one with 3 infantry and 2 heavy weapons and the other with 4 infantry and a special weapon; platoon one can be formed into a single 30 man squad along with the seperate command and heavy weapons, and platoon 2 can be a single 40 man squad with a seperate special and command squad.

Lord Commissars and Command HQs can be equipped with carapace, regular commissars and vet sergeants cannot.
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 22:31   #5 (permalink)
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You can only combine the infantry squads from the same platoon. So if you have 2 platoons, one with 3 infantry and 2 heavy weapons and the other with 4 infantry and a special weapon; platoon one can be formed into a single 30 man squad along with the seperate command and heavy weapons, and platoon 2 can be a single 40 man squad with a seperate special and command squad.

Lord Commissars and Command HQs can be equipped with carapace, regular commissars and vet sergeants cannot.
veteran sarges in veteran squads can have carapace though, if you chose the grenadier doctrine
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 23:17   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Got a couple of questions here...

So, no matter what, a single troops choice cannot have over 55 models?(not counting commissars and the like)

and I don't recall there being doctrines in the new 'dex... which page?
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 23:24   #7 (permalink)
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The doctrines are under "veterans" on P. 98.
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 23:31   #8 (permalink)
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So, no matter what, a single troops choice cannot have over 55 models?(not counting commissars and the like)
Not quite. A maximum sized Infantry Platoon Troops choice for Imperial Guard would contain the following;

- Platoon Command Squad; 5 models, Commissar + Chimera,
- 5 Infantry Squads; 10 models, Commissar + Chimera each,
- 5 Heavy Weapon Squads; 3 models each,
- 2 Special Weapons Squads; 6 models each,
- 1 Conscript Squad; 50 models.

So the largest the Troops choice would contain would be 144 models in total. However, the Combined Squads rule ONLY applies to Infantry Squads. So, your 2-5 Infantry Squads can all 'mob up' to become larger units but not any of the others. However, everything mentioned here is a scoring unit (excluding the Chimeras).

Does that make sense?
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Old 07 Jun 2009, 23:34   #9 (permalink)
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So, no matter what, a single troops choice cannot have over 55 models?
50 is the maximum for a combined squad size

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However, everything mentioned here is a scoring unit (excluding the Chimeras).
Speaking of Chimeras...did you guys know that in the "Dawn of War" game scenario setting, (where each player only deploys 1 HQ and 2 troops before the rest arrive from reserve) a veterans squad mounted in a chimera counts as 2 troops!
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Default Re: Got a couple of questions here...

but how many can i have in the platoon? I never got my question answered...

can i or can I not have over 60-80 men in a single infantry platoon using combined squads?
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