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Old 22 May 2009, 21:02   #1 (permalink)
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okay i will have about $400 to buy my new guard army and I want to use lots of artillery (about two manticores and one leman russ vanquisher) so what would you suggest? I know I can get cheaper stuff off of wayland but I'm not shure if I want to forgo Heavy weapons squads to keep things cheap, and also I haven't decided on chimera's or valkyries yet. Help

Veteran army v infantry platoon with heavy weapons

Chimera v Valkyrie
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Old 22 May 2009, 21:10   #2 (permalink)
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Vassal is your friend here. Play with different army lists until you find one you like and don't buy anything until you're sure! That's exactly what I did with my Tyranid and Ork armies. My IG I just buy whatever because I enjoy painting them and I want a huge army, but with Nids and Orks I only want that specific force.
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Old 22 May 2009, 21:19   #3 (permalink)
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I can't figure out how to get vassal working i've tried to no avail. A friend is supposed to be helping me though. As for Tyrannids I love playing the insectoid dinosaurs. If I every start my own though i'd need to get get that winged hive tyrant though, from forgeworld, looks too amazing to have a nid arm and not have one.

also there are some things vassal doesn't convey well, like the fact that I like the idea of starting a game with nothing but seven tanks on the board (4-5 chimera's 3 artillery pieces) that makes set up a breeze. Not quite shure on effectiveness of this idea though.
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Old 22 May 2009, 21:33   #4 (permalink)
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You have about a week until GW raises the prices, something to consider.

I would post an army list of what you would like to field. Imperial guard Cadian plastics aren't as cheap as they were two months ago, but there still a good way to go. The vassal suggestion is a great idea.

I would start with;

1. What do you want to field?

2. What models do you want to use to represent them? Old stormtroopers vs karskins/ Cadians or Catachan's, Voyston's or Vallhalan's?

3. Place your order at one time, you will probably get a bigger discount (or at least save on shipping) vs. several smaller orders.

4. Get what you think you'll actually put together and field, and have doing so. Nothing is worse than looking at 100 plastic kits dreading the assembly and painting.


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Old 22 May 2009, 21:57   #5 (permalink)
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1. MISSILES!!!!!!!!!! Big missiles it's a missile artillery company... or what's left of it. Oh and templates, lots of templates.

2. Cadians for troops manticores for heavy artillery and an uber expensive tank thats the marz alpha pattern with styrgies vanquisher cannon

as it stands i'm about 10 pounds over including shipping...


Either A

Company Command Squad

Commander Alexander
2 Veterans
Veteran Weapons Team (missile Launcher)


Elites

SS sergeant Debra (Power weapon)
8 SS Troopers
1 SS Trooper (melta gun)


Troops





Squad 1
Commisar Lord (power fist)
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine
Chimera


Squad 2
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine
chimera


Squad 3
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine
chimera


Squad 4
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine
chimera



Heavy Support

Leman Russ Vanquisher

Colossus

Medusa



OR B

Company Command Squad

Commander Alexander
2 Veterans
Veteran Weapons Team (missile Launcher)


Elites

SS sergeant Debra (Power weapon)
8 SS Troopers
1 SS Trooper (melta gun)


Troops

Platoon 1

Platoon Commander
2 Guardsmen
Heavy Weapons Team


Squad 1
Sergeant
7 Guardsmen
Heavy Weapons team (Heavy Bolter)

Squad 2
Sergeant
7 Guardsmen
Heavy Weapons Team (Heavy Bolter)


Heavy Weapons Squad 1
3 Heavy Weapons Teams (Missile Launcher)

Heavy Weapons Squad 2
3 Heavy Weapons Teams (Missile Launcher)



Platoon 2

Squad 1
Commisar Lord (power fist)
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine


Squad 2
Sergeant (Power Fist)
7 Veterans (shotguns)
2 Veterans (Melta guns)
Grenadiers Doctrine


Fast attack

Valkyrie

Valkyrie


Heavy Support

Leman Russ

colossus

medusa


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Old 23 May 2009, 00:53   #6 (permalink)
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Look at my list here

That cost me around 260 (USD $413) using online stores. I highly recommend Wayland Games or Maelstrom Games. Those Valk's will be a bit expensive. Play around with ordering stuff and see the total in the basket.
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Old 23 May 2009, 02:25   #7 (permalink)
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ROMMEL!!!!!!! Sorry WWII buff. It's a nice list but i find I'm heavily drawn to vehicles. If I can get a ten vehicle 1500 point army i'd be a very happy man. Unfortunately i'm not that rich. THough I think i'm just gunna come up witht he cash somehow and go with option A and forget about valkyries for the moment, as seven tanks makes me feel all warm and cuddly.

P.S. Where are you guys finding all these points? 100 men and five tanks?
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Old 23 May 2009, 15:36   #8 (permalink)
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100 models in Infantry Squads is only 500 points. You can fit 5 bare-bones Russ tanks, a command squad, and 2 full platoons into 1,500 very easily. All that put together, with no additional upgrades, is only 1,370 points, giving you 5 Russes and 115 infantry models. After upgrades it should be a comfortable 1,500 point list.
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Old 26 May 2009, 06:02   #9 (permalink)
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I know this wont make me popular with some, but try browsing ebay for tanks and battleforces, (especially the old ones) as I often save around 20% even after shipping, and if you live in the states or Britain buying from Australia or NZ where our dollars are lower will save you even more (just order lots to justify the shipping).
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