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Which woould you take with the new point cost?
View Poll Results: Now that AC's and HB's are the same cost, which will you be taking?
Autocannon 20 80.00%
Heavy Bolter 5 20.00%
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 07:34   #1 (permalink)
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Default Which woould you take with the new point cost?

I was quite shocked to see that HB's and AC's are the same cost in the new codex. Personally I've always been a huge fan of the AC as it add a lot more flexibility in the number of targets it can shoot at. This made me wonder if anyone would actually still take HB's since it's an obvious choice to me.
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Autocannons if I run my Standard Guard list. Both if I run an all-Infantry Squad list.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 07:44   #3 (permalink)
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I would run with auto cannons, although I can see why people would go for HB still.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 07:48   #4 (permalink)
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I just can rationalize it. HB gives you less range, and 2 less str for only one extra shot. S7 is pretty amazing. It wounds just about everything on a 2+ and is capable of knocking out medium vehicles and high-T models.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 09:32   #5 (permalink)
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I just can rationalize it. HB gives you less range, and 2 less str for only one extra shot. S7 is pretty amazing. It wounds just about everything on a 2+ and is capable of knocking out medium vehicles and high-T models.
True but the heavy bolter is still a better infantry killer, and you generally get more infantry in a list that light vehicles and MC's! That said I will be taking a few more autocannons due to their cheaper cost.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 14:11   #6 (permalink)
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I do reckon that i was surprised to see that the heavy weapons team AC's are the same point cost of the HB ones.

In my heavy infantry list, the only one i played with the new codex I use a 2:1 mix . 2AC for 1HB. I do prefer the HB for infantry killing over the AC. I'm not saying AC is useless for killing infantry, just that the HB will do the job as good or better. AC gets reserved for light vehicle hunting and helping with infantry.

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Old 24 Apr 2009, 15:21   #7 (permalink)
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Heavy Bolters over autocannons every time. Its not "this one heavy bolter gets one extra shot" its "this platoon gets 4-10 extra shots" and your lasgun is not as likely to be wasted like it would be on light vehicles.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 15:41   #8 (permalink)
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Since reading this, I've swapped my HB in my Daemonhunters Army's Allied Infantry Platoon's Command Squad for an Autocannon. :P
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 16:57   #9 (permalink)
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Heavy Bolters over autocannons every time. Its not "this one heavy bolter gets one extra shot" its "this platoon gets 4-10 extra shots" and your lasgun is not as likely to be wasted like it would be on light vehicles.
I find it quite hard to make an all-comers list without using the hell out of my AC's. They make perfectly good infantry killers and can take out just about any vehicle. With an HB's heavy list, wouldn't you be worried about coming across a mech list? They're so prevalent these days that having all those S5 weapons are just sitting there until one of your other weapons pops a transport or it's disembarked. Then of course when fighting nids the MC's are everywhere and S5 is hard to damage the MC's. Lastly the S7 also gives you the ability to cause instant death to GEQ's. With the wnew guard codex and the influx of new players we will see, I just can't see why a HB would be preferable.
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I totally want to take autocannons, but don't have the models yet.
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