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Old 21 Feb 2009, 00:29   #1 (permalink)
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Like the title, I was thinking about starting a guard army. I'd really like to start a massed troop army, and was wondering how well this can perform? I'm not familiar with the army very well, with the exception of what I've read on this forum. Not many guard players in my area either so nobody to ask. Kinda thinking of keeping it around 1k in terms of points for now, and maybe getting vehicles later.
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Old 21 Feb 2009, 00:45   #2 (permalink)
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Awsome, welcome to the guard forum. I run a massed troops list as well and it seems to work very well. I try to run in 1k points two full platoons, a russ, a command squad kitted out with master vox and commisair for a high Ld all the way across the board. I have to go, but I'll try to add to this later.

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Old 22 Feb 2009, 23:20   #3 (permalink)
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Two full squads, they cap out at 20 right? I'm sorta trying to keep to nothing but all troops, and outfitting some anti vehicle in there somewhere with special weapons and such. I want to try to do nothing but an army of man!
On that note, how many guard could you fit into 1k of space, they are like, 5 points a piece aren't they?
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Old 22 Feb 2009, 23:38   #4 (permalink)
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You can fit 150+ guardsmen in a 1k list with no war gear. or with some weapons and what not you can comfortably fit about 120. Guard have a very interesting force organization, your command is 5 men including your Officer, each troop choice has a 5 command junior command platoon, and 2-5 ten man guardsmen squads.
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Old 23 Feb 2009, 01:27   #5 (permalink)
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Well, a minmum sized infantry platoon is 25 guys; 2 squads of 10 and a 5 man command squad. This comes in at 160 points, but att a maximum you can hav 55 guys in a single force organization slot. 5x10+5. And best of all, each squad holds objective, and a single KP=55 kills (that's how I play, anyways)! See my 3000 points all infantry army. Its a WIP, but its still viable.
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Old 23 Feb 2009, 01:55   #6 (permalink)
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Like Ork Horde (6 mobs of 30 Ork Boyz), IG Horde will get boring very fast. Try to add spice to it like adding Leman Russes, Deep-Striking/Outflanking Hard Vets with Plasma Gun/Meltagun, Rough Riders, Ogryns etc. Maybe even an Inquisition attachment.

Not to say All-Infantry Guard Army isn't viable. It will just get boring very soon.
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Old 23 Feb 2009, 04:07   #7 (permalink)
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The only real problem with playing this type of Army is in annihilation you are going to be giving away way too many kill points. Each squad in a platoon is worth a kill point, and each command unit in the platoon is worth 2 points, one for the Junior officer, and one for his retinue. at every troops foc slot being between 4-9 KP's you may want to ask your friends to play victory points or try and minimilize the amount of Annihilation games you play, Annihilation is borring anyways objectives is much more fun.
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Old 23 Feb 2009, 04:45   #8 (permalink)
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Also horde armies have a habit of giving cheesy enemies an excuse to claim a cover save in 5th ed.
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Old 23 Feb 2009, 20:46   #9 (permalink)
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IIRC the rulebook states that IC's and their retinue count as only 1 kp.
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Old 24 Feb 2009, 00:18   #10 (permalink)
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"If a Character Has A Retinue, The Character and his Retinue are worth one kill point each." Quoted from the book.
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