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Old 11 Aug 2008, 17:41   #11 (permalink)
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Ugh... I'm going to need more improved comms now.....
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Old 12 Aug 2008, 12:58   #12 (permalink)
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There's really a much simpler explanation :P In the paragraph under the drop troops doctrine it states that any guard infantry unit may deepstrike if it chooses to do so. On the preceding page it goes on to define a guard infantry unit as officer's with their command squads, anti-tank squads, fire support squads, special weapon squads, mortar squads hardened veterans squads and normal infantry squads.

It is important to note that each squad is considered a separate unit, and not the entire platoon. When it actually comes to deploying those seperate units, I've always rolled for each force org choice for my reserves rolls, but now I'm thinking I've been doing that wrong....
The question is rooted in 4th edition thinking, in which entire FOC selections were diced for collectively when rolling for reserves. This is no longer so (you were doing it right before, but not anymore).
*looks it up*



crap. I've been doing it wrong too then. In our defense it was a really small paragraph :P
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So, what? We have to do reserve rolls for every squads now?
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So, what? We have to do reserve rolls for every squads now?
actually yes. it says it in the main rulebook now.

pg 92 multiple unit choices
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Yea, I played a game yesterday with my drop list, now remembering that I had to role for each squad... It didn't go so well. In 4th I could depend on a large chunk of my force arriving on turn 2 all together by virtue of only having a few rolls to make and a couple improved comms to make sure... Now though I had bits and pieces dropping in over a period of three turns.
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Old 12 Aug 2008, 22:24   #16 (permalink)
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Except that in the codex it says that platoons count as a single unit for reserves purposes

and I thought that it was codex before rulebook

Nothing in the FAQ against it either

So if I'm right you roll for a platoon as a single unit

Can someone confirm this or prove it wrong please?
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Except that in the codex it says that platoons count as a single unit for reserves purposes

and I thought that it was codex before rulebook

Nothing in the FAQ against it either

So if I'm right you roll for a platoon as a single unit

Can someone confirm this or prove it wrong please?
normally yes. but in this case the rulebook (that's newer in this case) but the ruling stats that "Certain codexs allow several unit's may be bought as a single FOC. But they roll for reserse and deploy indipendantly" paraphased.

but anyway in this case the rulebook overrules the codex because it specifically says it does.
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Damn, that closes the curtains on my plan to deepstrike two demo-charges next to the enemy's big hitter unit at the same time :P
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Well, that's retarded. Oh well, either the new IG Codex will fixed it or we have to take it as it is :-\

EDIT: Wait wait wait......doesn't the Codex take precedence over the Rulebook? I mean they just give an example of a Dedicated Transport.
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Well, that's retarded. Oh well, either the new IG Codex will fixed it or we have to take it as it is :-\

EDIT: Wait wait wait......doesn't the Codex take precedence over the Rulebook? I mean they just give an example of a Dedicated Transport.
read my post above.

normally yes but it is specifically stated in the 5th ed rulebook that it overrules the codex in this case(once again I find myself on the opposite side of the one I started on... darn you Tom why must you always be right ).
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