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Old 05 May 2005, 11:41   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why shotguns are bad.

Shotguns are, in my opinion, worthless.

They have the same strength and Ap of a lasgun, and shoot as fast as a rapid fring lasgun.

This makes them ineffective, or as good as a rapid firing lasgun. Then theres not point taking them anyway.

To improve the shotgun, I would...

1. give them range 18" instead of the same range as a laspistol.

2. Give it an Ap.

3. Let it reroll one miss. (twin linked, would represent a hail of pellets...)

what is everyone elses take on the shotgun?
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Old 05 May 2005, 11:44   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why shotguns are bad.

They were more valuable in 3rd Edition, especially for Catachans who could move, fire twice, then assault. Then again, that's still pretty good... but nobody else has much use for them.
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Old 05 May 2005, 12:35   #3 (permalink)
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I don't like them because their just a shorter ranged lasgun. I would personally make them like a templete weapon, or maybe have GW make a shotgun templete so it hits more people, to represent the hail of shots it unleashes.
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Default Re: Why shotguns are bad.

I still like them alot under Fourth Edition, they are particularly effective in very agressive IG armies.

The ability to still charge after firing is a huge bonus and will ofetn give you the jump on the enemy that will allow you to defeat them.

As Wargamer said, Catachans can use them to great effect with their ability to see further through terrain.

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Default Re: Why shotguns are bad.

I think Shotguns should get a bit of a boost for SMurfs at least, as Scouts have little tactical use for them IMO.
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Default Re: Why shotguns are bad.

Well aren't Scouts supposed to charge headlong into combat? That's why they have sniper... rifles... oh. Never mind. So a short-ranged shotgun sucks for a long range unit. Duh. So then why do they have the option??
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Shotguns have S3, which sucks. Especialy for SMurfs, it's basically their weakest weapon. Also Scouts are completely flexible, not shooty.
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Default Re: Why shotguns are bad.

Exactley Scouts aren't a long range unit they are flexible as are most Astrates units. Shotguns are great for them as it lets them fire before they charge.

Strength 3 also isn't all that bad.
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I prefer to get a S4 shot with a pistol then another from the CC weapon, sure it hits on 4+, but I'm still getting about a 1/10 larger chance of killing someone!
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Old 05 May 2005, 21:54   #10 (permalink)
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whatever it is..shotguns need help
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