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Old 05 Jun 2008, 19:30   #1 (permalink)
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Default Flamer and friendly fire

A IG specific question.

G = guardsman, S = sergeant, E = enemy unit, F = flamer armed guardsman;


E E E E E E E E



G G G G F G G G G S
G G G G F G G G G S
G G G G F G G G G S

If you give a guardsmen squad a flamer, let's say you have three squads in a platoon and want to give three guardsmen flamers (as above), can the flamers shoot through the friendly models of its platoon (assuming its in the second or third row for instance and levels a blast through the rows ahead of it) at an advancing enemy with no penalty?

Or must (and can they) all be set up in the front row in order to fire them effectively (as below)?

E E E E E E E E



G G G F F F G G G S
G G G G G G G G G S
G G G G G G G G G S
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 19:38   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, correct otherwise your opponent will complain etc.

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G G F G G G G F G G G G F G G G G F G G G G F G G
G G S G G G G S G G G G S G G G G S G G G G S G G

This would be a better set up

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Old 05 Jun 2008, 19:43   #3 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly, the rulebook says to try to avoid hitting your own units. (which is just common sense) Erm, maybe someone could look it up, but can you not fire if you overlap your own units?
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 19:53   #4 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly, the rulebook says to try to avoid hitting your own units. (which is just common sense) Erm, maybe someone could look it up, but can you not fire if you overlap your own units?
I've seen this before although the friendly is a tank. But in any case, I suggest that formation will save you the trouble of having rants from your opponent.

OK, checked the rulebook. It's says 'Any model fully or partially hit are hit automatically.' So, ya, it does says try to avoid hitting friendly unit but I think the rule is clear enough.
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 20:00   #5 (permalink)
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Unless you want to fry your own men. That's cool too.
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 20:37   #6 (permalink)
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Unless you want to fry your own men. That's cool too.
No, that's hot, yowch! :P

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Old 05 Jun 2008, 21:07   #7 (permalink)
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hmm

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Old 05 Jun 2008, 21:22   #8 (permalink)
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It does sound like something Guard would do... And if its conscripts, then its just fun...

But seriously, you are not allowed to place any template so it covers your own men is the rule it seems. Of course they can scatter if its ordnance...
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 22:00   #9 (permalink)
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Honestly, it takes a substantial measure of my will to not say something abrasive and sarcastic here, but this is covered by the rulebook. It's not even an obscure reference that's hard to find - It says it right in the description of how to use template weapons.

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"...place the template so that its narrow end is touching the base of the model firing it and the rest of the template covers as many models as possible in the target unit without covering any friends."
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 22:10   #10 (permalink)
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Ah, right.

Well put it this way; if I was facing you and you wanted to fry your own men, I wouldn't mind.
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