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Old 22 Mar 2008, 03:23   #1 (permalink)
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I apologize for the trouble my last post might of caused. I was trying to help my brother who formed his own veteran squad to legally field his snipers. I got mixed answers but am confident in what I learned. Now, out of curiosity, what do you, my fellow wargamers, have for your veterans?
My brother has 6 vets. 2 with sniper rifles, 2 with lasguns and 2 with bolters.
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Old 22 Mar 2008, 03:28   #2 (permalink)
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You can't field snipers in your Hardened Veterans unless you use the Light Infantry Doctrine and also that's unadvisable as sniper rifles are better used in mass. You may armed yyour veteran sergeant with a bolter but that's it. You other veterans will have to make do with standard issued weapons.

For my list, I armed my vets with lasguns, 3 plasmaguns and a lascannon.

Again get the IG codex. And I think this has been discussed already?
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Old 22 Mar 2008, 05:18   #3 (permalink)
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You can't field snipers in your Hardened Veterans unless you use the Light Infantry Doctrine and also that's unadvisable as sniper rifles are better used in mass.
Actually, Only the Infantry Platoon can field Snipers. Otherwise they're restricted to Special Weapon Squads.

Veterans can take special weapons except snipers, and only the Veteran Sergeant can take armoury weapons such as the boltgun.

You know, besides the 2 lasguns, that almost looks like a Space Marine Scout Squad.
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Old 22 Mar 2008, 13:58   #4 (permalink)
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No, Cal585, Veterans can take Sniper Rifles, though they can only take one per squad, and only that if you take no heavy weapons. The Light Infantry doctrine applies to Guard Infantry, and Hardened Veterans are indeed Guard Infantry.
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Old 23 Mar 2008, 11:51   #5 (permalink)
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No, Cal585, Veterans can take Sniper Rifles, though they can only take one per squad, and only that if you take no heavy weapons. The Light Infantry doctrine applies to Guard Infantry, and Hardened Veterans are indeed Guard Infantry.
Where do you get that from???
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May, if they are a normal Infantry Platoon squad that could include a heavy weapon team but chooses not to...
As Veterans aren't a Platoon squad, let alone a normal one, I can't see how they can take a Sniper Rifle.

Of course, it is possible that somehow I've got this wrong, in which case I'll happily concede. But that's the impression I get at the moment.
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Old 23 Mar 2008, 14:23   #6 (permalink)
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no GeekyGator is correct all guard infantry units may take doctrines this inculdes veterans,conscripts command platoons etc
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Old 23 Mar 2008, 16:12   #7 (permalink)
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Ah, you seem to be correct Cal. I was thrown off when I read the top part, since the doctrine can be taken by any Guard Infantry unit.

Huzzah for Cal reading the entire entry
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Old 23 Mar 2008, 21:12   #8 (permalink)
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How? One bolter, max. I don't have my codex with me, but if you can have sniper rifles, its 0-1. So, yeah... Your brother is either:

A) Misguided or stupid (No offence.)
B) Taking you for a drive (Meaning, trying to get unfair advantages because you do not know the rules.)
or C) Unintentionally bending the rules, while not caring to check.
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Old 23 Mar 2008, 21:46   #9 (permalink)
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So you guys calling his brother stupid never misread rules or did something obviously illegal in game terms?
Consider this a warning you two.

I'm locking this. Disappointing people.

Tauruler... You may make a new topic if you so wish.
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