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Old 02 Mar 2008, 16:44   #1 (permalink)
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i want to use RR's in my IG but i can't think of what mounts to use... they are a gang based city fighting army. i don't like the bikes, horses are out of place, giant lizards look daft and hoverboards are boring. any suggestions welcome.
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 17:09   #2 (permalink)
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What's wrong with bikes? Bikers can be very gang-like in their mentality...model em up to look like crazy Japanese Bozusoku or something like out of Akira for laughs.
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 17:22   #3 (permalink)
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Well, in a gang-based cityfight army the obvious choice would be bikes of some sort, and animals of any kind are probably out. Perhaps you could use some sort of small fast mech or robot, or a buggy of some kind. Or you could convert a 4-wheel ATV from the SM bikes - it wouldn't be a bike, and I've seen it done well. Other than that, there's not much you can do.
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 17:55   #4 (permalink)
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Motorcycle gang ftw.

Make sure they've got chains and things in addition to the Hunting Lances....which idk what you'd use for that....its very Feral as opposed to the cyberpunk image im getting
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 17:59   #5 (permalink)
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i was thinking skateboards...

i don't like the bikes because i can't see someone being able to control his ride during an exploding pole going off.
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 18:01   #6 (permalink)
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I sense a money issue
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 18:05   #7 (permalink)
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there is no direct issue with money... i've easily got enough to get [about 16 baneblades at mo...] the RR's easily. i can't get some of the pieces because of GW's stupid mail order destruction...
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 18:38   #8 (permalink)
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If you want bikes but don't like the GW bikes (though they make good ATVs, Im partway into that conversion), I recommend using the Boilersuited Ape on a Bike from Eureka Miniatures. They are based on Australia but have a US distributor. Bike is US$5 and includes a completely separate 2-part rider. They're supposed to be perfectly scaled, or so others have said on other forums.

Australian site: http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info...oducts_id=9097

US site: http://eurekaminusa.com/product.aspx?id=2099&cid=127

I emailed the guy in the US, he says he can order more.

Then get a box of Cadians or Catachans and a little bit of converting work...

On a gameplay note, exchange their CCWs for shock lances, so they end up with laspistol + lance. You have to do the entire squad - you can't exchange only some weapons for shock lances, and once you do the exchange, you can't take any special weapons. But thats ok - the Riders strength comes in being cavalry - Fleet and 12" charge - and the on-the-charge 2 S5 I5 power weapon attacks per model (21 total in max unit with vet sergeant) they get on the first charge. You can't even give a vet sgt anything bigger than a pistol, but it's worth it. For a little more than 100 points they can get in range quickly and take out 200+ points of other models, like termie squads. If they survive that and can disengage, they can ride around harassing with laspistols and distracting your opponent, or charge a weaker unit. If they have meltabombs they will make a good anti-vehicle squad too.

Additionally, you can take a couple of the special equipment doctrines (Carapace armor was one) as "Rough Rider only". This does mean taking 2 of the doctrines - 1 to take RRs, 1 to give them carapace armor - but the extra costs or modelling requirements of many other doctrines aren't necessarily worth it (for example sharpshooters becomes effectively BS3.5, but is most useful on heavy weapons platoons; on regular units the cost increase is identical to buying more guardsmen, who can also abosrb more wounds)
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 18:53   #9 (permalink)
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Motorcycle gang ftw.

Make sure they've got chains and things in addition to the Hunting Lances....which idk what you'd use for that....its very Feral as opposed to the cyberpunk image im getting
Instead of hunting lances, feel free to use something like monomolecular glass spears similar to what Dmitri Ravinoff used in Stephenson's Snow Crash.
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Old 02 Mar 2008, 19:02   #10 (permalink)
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i've already planned the unit weapons, half will have hunting lances, there might be a meltagun and the serg' has melta bombs and a power weapon.
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