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Old 02 Jan 2008, 10:32   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,
I'm a long time necron player and have recently decided to collect guard.
My question is do you feel autocannons in 750 pts are a good enough anti-vehicle firebase or do you recomend lascannons? This is for a conflict tournament?
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 10:47   #2 (permalink)
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Well it would be nice to see more writing than just 'hi all'..
Like how many points is the tournament etc
Well for guard i have to say yes, I'm a tournament player and I've seen enough light skimmers to last me a life Time :P

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Old 02 Jan 2008, 10:48   #3 (permalink)
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errr... read it again. but sorry my internet is real laggy and cut me off at the beginning!
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 11:00   #4 (permalink)
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Well, a few autocannons in such a game would definitely be worth your while. Those things are great on smug Firewarriors who think they're out of your range and other 4+ abundant races, and they're alright for forcing a few saves on MEQs as well. Not to mention the light skimmers Timjim mentioned. However, in case you come across something heavier, I would still recommend taking a lascannon somewhere.
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 11:03   #5 (permalink)
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So many skimmers *rocks*

And they're great for mowing down medium armoured infantry like Will said, I have a squad of havocs with them just for their multi purpose role.
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 11:04   #6 (permalink)
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Well, a few autocannons in such a game would definitely be worth your while. Those things are great on smug Firewarriors who think they're out of your range and other 4+ abundant races, and they're alright for forcing a few saves on MEQs as well. Not to mention the light skimmers Timjim mentioned. However, in case you come across something heavier, I would still recommend taking a lascannon somewhere.
So say a special weapons team of autocannons and posibly 1-2 lascannons?
Should i place the lascannons in a normal squad or attach to something else?
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 11:19   #7 (permalink)
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Normal squad if you can - no armour can best the power of ablative shielding! In small points values those Lascannons are going to be a prime target. If you take a Veterans squad you might want to put one in that - on a single shot weapon like a Lascannon, a decent BS will come in handy.
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 17:38   #8 (permalink)
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in all honesty, i would actually go with a rocket/ missile launcher. they are cheaper and have pretty much the same chance of effect as a las cannon if used in the right quantities. i mean (i would guess) you can get 2 missiles for 1 las shot. go for the missiles, in a 750 pts game, your not going to see many front armour 14 vehicles, as it was said, maybe a few skimmers and lighter vehicles but nothing a krak missile can't deal with
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Old 02 Jan 2008, 18:05   #9 (permalink)
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in all honesty, i would actually go with a rocket/ missile launcher. they are cheaper and have pretty much the same chance of effect as a las cannon if used in the right quantities. i mean (i would guess) you can get 2 missiles for 1 las shot. go for the missiles, in a 750 pts game, your not going to see many front armour 14 vehicles, as it was said, maybe a few skimmers and lighter vehicles but nothing a krak missile can't deal with
I disagree with this in part. Missile launchers may be cheaper than lascannons, but that certainly does not equate to a greater volume of them in your army list. People often focus on price and overlook the fact that you have a limited number of heavy weapon slots. Sure, the missile launcher is 40% cheaper than the lascannon; does that mean you can have 40% more of them? No! You've still got to pay for another infantry squad or whatever in order to get that extra slot, and then that 10 point difference is overridden entirely.

However, that said, only powergamers field Land Raiders and Monoliths in 750 point games, so missile launchers should prove adequate if you really need to save forty points or so. I'd still say autocannons as the main body of your heavy weapons with one or two lascannons though.
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Old 03 Jan 2008, 16:30   #10 (permalink)
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well, i still say auto cannons are cool, but i don't beleiv ethat a las cannon is that neccercary. i mean i would imagine the hardest tank you would come up against in 750 pts would be a hammer head (and only because they are relativly cheap) and then an auto cannon wouldn't work, but a krak missile will. i think a few las cannons (1 or 2) is ok, but any more is over kill really
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