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Old 17 Oct 2007, 20:39   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, Im realy unsure as to what the 'average' regiment is meant to look like. What Im guessing for an infantry regiment is -

Approx 30 Companies,
Each of Approx 300 Men,
for a 9,000 Man Regiment.

You get some Sentinals and a Chimera or two in a Company.

Now what I dont get is Armour. Do you get an Armoured Company in an Infantry Regiment? if so, how many?. If you do, then I assume it could be used as an actual Armoured Company or spread between the Infantry Companies. Do you get any full Mech Companies in an Infantry Company?.

So for example could you get. The 2nd Armoured Company of the Cadian 101st Infantry Regiment?.

Im asking this as I want to make a 'Mobile Infantry' Regiment. A specialist regiment from Voss. High production capabilities in regular arms but relatively low production of more advanced vehicles. Equip own regiments and have a value on their mens lives. So they have 'Mobile Infantry Regiments' that engage the enemy with their easy to produce, basic tanks. And support with a small number of elite troops from Valkries with Vulture Support. This lets the easy to produce tanks take the brunt of the fighting reducing losses in the valued troops and valuable equipment. So the regiment would consist of plenty of armour, some drop infantry elements and some infantry elements. So I would probably have say 2/3 of the regiment as armoured with 1/6 as drop infantry and 1/6 Mechanised.

It would also allow the regiment to operate as an undersized armoured regiment if need be and to easily easily Tank Companies alone without Drop Support.

I want to do this as I have an Armoured Battlgroup and the start of a Drop Troops army and want to combine the two.

Plus I think the Idea of enaging the enemy with heavy armour to keep them on the back foot or break their lines and then mopping up with drop infantry [and using them to secure objectives as the tank force rumbles on, the Mech companies then arrive for basic guard duty. Leaving the Droppers to support the Tank Companies as they engage more enemies as they have the speed to catch up] is quite realistic for an elite force.
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Old 17 Oct 2007, 20:48   #2 (permalink)
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A "Standard Regiment" is Cadian pattern. 8000 men divided into 24 companies with 334 men per company.

Generally, an Regiment of Infantry only has infantry in it. The Infantry Regiment, however, does have a pool of lighter vehicles. Light tanks and walkers will fall under company command if the Regiment's Colonel decides the company needs light armoured support.

Armoured units, such as Leman Russ's, are generally attached to the Infantry Regiment they are serving with, and can be shuffled around as much as the Colonel see's fit.

If it's a specialized regiment, then all the standardizations disappear pretty quick. Generally, a specialized regiment is special, or sometimes unique.

You could have a small portion of your men deployed inside Chimera's, say 8 of your 24 companies. The other 16 companies would be divided amoung the various roles you choose. I'll throw out an idea.

8 Companies deployed via Chimera.
12 Companies fight in this basic tank.
4 Companies are Drop Troops.

That's what I'm assuming you mean.

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Old 17 Oct 2007, 21:02   #3 (permalink)
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Ive just re-read through my Imperial Armours.

You get all sorts of companies in an infantry regiment. Just mostly Infantry. In the Tallarn one I was just looking at, they had about -

20 Infantry Companies,
3 Tank Companies,
3 Sentinal Companies [pretty much ALWAYS spread around the other Companies and rarely operate as a whole Company].
3 Rough Rider Companies,
Approx 6 Artillery Companies.

Thats perfect, as it shows that even regular Infantry Regiments have lots of different types of Companies, just the majority as Infantry Companies.

Armoured Companies have a good mix of Tank Companies and Mech Companies etc.

Then you get some Attatched Companies, some independant Companies [like Storm Troopers] and some shipped in from other Regiments.

That all leaves perfect scope for what I want from my regiment.
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So for example could you get. The 2nd Armoured Company of the Cadian 101st Infantry Regiment?.
Yes you could. As I see it, the Guard are a combined arms force, disregarding specialized regiements such as Jungle fighters or stealthers. It really seems perfectly reasonable for an infantry Regiment to have an armored, mechanized and even an artillery company attached for close support without going too far up the chain of command.

So therefore, an Infantry regiment won't only consist of infantry, and be able to support itself without relying on outside support. It seems to be the most realisitc thing to do.

EDIT: Just saw your post Arguelon, and it sums it up good.
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Old 17 Oct 2007, 21:09   #5 (permalink)
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I recommend you check out the book "Tactica Imperialis". It has some pretty good information of Imperial regiments, and seems to push the idea that regiments generally don't have that much variety.

I'd say it endorses attaching units to other regiments/companies a lot.
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Old 17 Oct 2007, 21:13   #6 (permalink)
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I knew that other Regiments Companies often got attatched but I wanted independant regiments, with their own mix of Comapnies.

IA clears that up though, that at least some worlds produce regiments that have a nice mix of different types of companies.

As Ive always hated the idea of say the Cadian 6th Infantry, 4th Company, with 3 Leman Russ fighting under their command from the Kreig 21st Tank, 7th Company. Which happens. Now, I havethe justification for both types.
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Old 17 Oct 2007, 21:21   #7 (permalink)
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As Ive always hated the idea of say the Cadian 6th Infantry, 4th Company, with 3 Leman Russ fighting under their command from the Kreig 21st Tank, 7th Company. Which happens. Now, I havethe justification for both types.
I didn't know it got that specific. I always just assumed a regiment was attached to a regiment, and the itty gritty details of what unit is attached to which was always irrelevent. Especially in the little amount of detail fluff generally incorporates.

Anyway, it's good to see that you've answered your own question.
A bit off topic here, but are you grabbing your nipples in your avatar? :sadnshocked:
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Haha, no. I was gonna do the Imperial Aquilla across my chest but the shot took before I could as I was messing about trying to get in shot.

This will give all us Drop Troops supporting tanks players fluff justification for beardyness, haha.
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Old 17 Oct 2007, 22:05   #9 (permalink)
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Haha, no. I was gonna do the Imperial Aquilla across my chest but the shot took before I could as I was messing about trying to get in shot.
No you weren't. You're clearly flexing. The clenched fists are a dead giveaway. Poser. :P
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I thought he was doing a "handbra"... Figured I didn't want to ask.

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