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Upon what does an Imperial Guard regiment place greatest value?
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Old 04 May 2007, 15:20   #1 (permalink)
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I'm trying to think of a premise for the next community game (Imperial Fists vs Armoured Battlegroup) but I just can't think what would be so important to an Imperial Guard general that he would risk conflict with a Space Marine task force.

No sane man would ever threaten a Space Marine, nor refuse his demands when a host of battle brothers stand poised to strike, so what would be so important to a regiment that they'd do that?
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Old 04 May 2007, 15:49   #2 (permalink)
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They must be a lil crazy if you ask me

You could always theme this so that the Imperial Fists are the ones doing the attacking. Perhaps have them (the guard) fight a sort of ambush or breakthrough (Blitz?) mission. Perhaps the armoured battlegroup represent a seperatist armoured column moving up toward the front lines. Unknown to them, the Imperial Fists have been able to intercept their communications and are waiting for them
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Old 04 May 2007, 16:50   #3 (permalink)
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They must be a lil crazy if you ask me

You could always theme this so that the Imperial Fists are the ones doing the attacking. Perhaps have them (the guard) fight a sort of ambush or breakthrough (Blitz?) mission. Perhaps the armoured battlegroup represent a seperatist armoured column moving up toward the front lines. Unknown to them, the Imperial Fists have been able to intercept their communications and are waiting for them
No, the rebel Guard thing has been done to death, as has the radical/mad Inquisitor premise. More to the point though, the Valoran 31st "Silverbacks" were established as a loyalist armoured regiment (newly formed) in the last community game and I'd like to develop them further so people can come to associate with them more with each game.

There's no problem with the Imperial Fists attacking them, but I'd like a better reason than: 'You're tainted by the ruinous powers. Burn, heretic!'. Maybe it'll come down to that, but I just want something fresh; something both sides could fight for, believing their cause to be worthy. Mere survival doesn't seem to cut it.
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Old 04 May 2007, 17:08   #4 (permalink)
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Well the Space Marines could themselves be at fault under the eyes of the Guardsmen.

You could have a plot line along the lines of the IG forces believing they have the right to defend a location/objects which make up part of their faith. The space Marines on the otherhand wish to remove these objects or build on the location.

With this clash of interests and the IG commander not willing to back down without direct orders from the Imperiosus Administration Muneris. The space Marines decide to use force to remove the IG forces as they are unwilling to spend time wishing for the orders to come through, which may take many months.

It would be a sad confrontation with either side in the right, but only one can stand victorious.

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Old 04 May 2007, 17:15   #5 (permalink)
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Well the Space Marines could themselves be at fault under the eyes of the Guardsmen.

You could have a plot line along the lines of the IG forces believing they have the right to defend a location/objects which make up part of their faith. The space Marines on the otherhand wish to remove these objects or build on the location.

With this clash of interests and the IG commander not willing to back down without direct orders from the Imperiosus Administration Muneris. The space Marines decide to use force to remove the IG forces as they are unwilling to spend time wishing for the orders to come through, which may take many months.

It would be a sad confrontation with either side in the right, but only one can stand victorious.

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That's the sort of thing I'm looking for, but what I need to know is what sort of thing(s) might be that Important to the Imperial Guard? What is sacred to them that the Space Marines might have cause to destroy or occupy?

EDIT - Nevermind, it just came to me. Thanks for your help, fellas!
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What about a contradiction of orders?
The Imperial Guard may have received orders from the Warmaster to take and hold an area, while
the Space Marines have their own orders to take the same area as well.
Perhaps the marines have their own agenda...

Hmm...perhaps the Guard have already taken a heretic citadel and are ordered to hold it until they are reinforced.
The Marines may have the desire to take the same fortress, but to reclaim a lost artifact of great inportance to their Chapter, found in the citadels vault. An artifact that may put the Chapters honor in question?

Well, my two cents
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Old 04 May 2007, 22:50   #7 (permalink)
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No, the rebel Guard thing has been done to death, as has the radical/mad Inquisitor premise. More to the point though, the Valoran 31st "Silverbacks" were established as a loyalist armoured regiment (newly formed) in the last community game and I'd like to develop them further so people can come to associate with them more with each game.

There's no problem with the Imperial Fists attacking them, but I'd like a better reason than: 'You're tainted by the ruinous powers. Burn, heretic!'. Maybe it'll come down to that, but I just want something fresh; something both sides could fight for, believing their cause to be worthy. Mere survival doesn't seem to cut it.
Alright, no problem. I didn't realize you wanted to stick that close to the narrative with the armoured battlegroup.
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Old 04 May 2007, 23:27   #8 (permalink)
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Depends on the regiment, probably. A regiment might defend the interests of its homeworld if they felt that the Astartes threatened those interests. And since the Space Marines do not always represent the Imperium, this is certainly possible. Some armies will stick to their literal orders to the point of madness, such as an order by the Inquisition to let no one pass, regardless of their affiliation. When dealing with the Inquisition, you can't always stop and ask for clarification.

Most Imperial Guard Generals may not be willing to clash with a Chapter Master on matters of jurisdiction, but I can not imagine that they would accept the same treatment from a mere Captain. Depending on the size of the Imperial Fists contingent, that might also play a role.
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Old 05 May 2007, 00:09   #9 (permalink)
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Here's one... It could be on the Valoran homeworld, and they have an ancient shrine with an artifact of great importance, which, unbeknownst to them, comes from the Imperial Fists's background and could call their loyalty into question. The Fists are saving their honor, the Valorans defending an ancinet temple.
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Hmm...perhaps the Guard have already taken a heretic citadel and are ordered to hold it until they are reinforced.
The Marines may have the desire to take the same fortress, but to reclaim a lost artifact of great inportance to their Chapter, found in the citadels vault. An artifact that may put the Chapters honor in question?
Exactly what I was thinking. This artifact could be something like proof that a company of Imperial Fists joined Horus during the Heresy or something a long those lines. I'm not to sure if that suggestion would fly or not, the Imperial Fists were a Very loyal legion, if I remember correctly.
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