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Old 08 Mar 2007, 06:16   #1 (permalink)
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holla anny one got a good 1500pt army build im really new to 40k and i need all the help i can get i warn you i may get pathetic :'( but esentualy i just need the help
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Old 08 Mar 2007, 06:33   #2 (permalink)
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easy... if i understand you correctly the first thing to do is get what you need (2 troops 1 HQ), then what looks cool, then what your army's lacking in (IE heavy weapons, tank killers, mobility)
then make an army list out of that. As for getting someone else to write a list thats kinda cheating but it would help if you listed your preferences.
hope this has been even slightly usefull.
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Old 08 Mar 2007, 06:41   #3 (permalink)
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Heres a HEAVY WEAPON army in my opinion

HQ
SO w/ Master Vox
6 Autocannon Squad
3 Lascannon Squad 310

Elite 220ish
Storm Trooper
Melta
Storm Trooper
Melta

Troops 240+weapons
Guard Squad w/vox
Heavy Bolter
Guard Squad w/vox
Heavy Bolter
Guard Squad w/ vox
Heavy Bolter
Guard Squad w/ vox
HeavyBolter
Heavy Support bout 500?
Leman Russ
HB
Lascannon
Leman Russ
HB
Lascannon
Leman Russ Demolisher
Plasmacannon

You get a spare 100-200 points ... but i think its a solid army ....

Tanks kills everything .. Heavy Bolter Squads kill infantry .. and Heavy Weapon Squads should be placed strategically ... Storm Troopers Deep Strike .. and yea ...

Imperial Guards focus on
- TANKS (best ones in the game)
- Massed Infantry (cheap and big in numbers)
- Diversity (many regiments and doctrine combination)
- FIREPOWER!!! (heavy weapon squads)

Weaknesses
- Low BS skill (compared to MEQ or Space Marine Equivalent)
- Bad Armor Saves (Most basic weapons like bolter armor peirces the Guardsmen's armor [no armor saveif wounded])
- Vunerable to assualt (with a low WS and T, your very vunerable)
- Medium leadership

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Old 08 Mar 2007, 07:34   #4 (permalink)
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guard can be made nearly unbreakable with vox casters commissars and the like so if you are careful then ld isn't a problem.
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Old 08 Mar 2007, 21:11   #5 (permalink)
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But is not it fun to watch your own troops run away?

Not all the time, but it kind of defeats the fun of playing guard if you tool them up to stand and fight all the time. Plus it takes points out and so you have less bodies for cannon fodder...

My advice is get a strong HQ with extras, like heavy weapons. One squad will do to start with. I suggest Autocannons or missile launchers because they can play anti-tank and anti-infantry.

As for troops I suggest getting four boxes worth, straight off. Its the grunts that make the guard and it pays to have alot of guys about even if you are going to go armoured company later.

Leave tanks or vehicles until after a few games (you could proxy them if you wish to get used to armour rules). I found that the games I enjoyed most with my Guard was when I never had any tanks. Then later with tanks I no longer liked my army, it felt wrong so I sold the tanks and got a whole load of the new Cadian models. So now my IG is a wave of men (with a couple of hellhounds, a chimera and 14 sentinels (I just love sentinels))

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Old 08 Mar 2007, 23:23   #6 (permalink)
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I like tanks and recomend that you get at least 1 leman russ.
The demolisher is also pretty sweet, but i wouldn't get one unless you already have a russ or two.
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Old 09 Mar 2007, 05:07   #7 (permalink)
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Ingredence:
1 line o' static gaurds men
Add 2 heavy weapon squads.
Add at lest two battle tanks,
Mix in a Basilisk or two.

Bake for half an hour.

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Old 09 Mar 2007, 05:23   #8 (permalink)
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Hey thanks for the advise guy's any way i might make some mods to that army list and add a few more guardsmen or another tank ;D
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Old 09 Mar 2007, 09:45   #9 (permalink)
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are you on a tight budget? if so... i suggest a Cadian Battleforce, a box of infantry, and a chimera. this will get you a 750-ish point army depending on how you trick out your heavy weapons and command squad. if not on a budget, i say more infantry and lemans is the way to go.
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All you need in an imperial army is TANKS. Then you have guardsman fill in the gaps with extra points. That's at least my view on guard, since tanks are the backbone of your army. But the list is going to be your choice, so you may have to experiment a little bit and see which way you like your force to go.
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