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Old 15 Aug 2006, 22:23   #1 (permalink)
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Hello to all.

I'm planning on starting an Armored Company List soon, and have browsed through the army lists and such.

I have a few questions.

What's the point of a Conqueror? Exterminators are cheaper and seem to do the same thing.

Are Exterminators good choices for Tank Aces and Commanders? I figured these tanks benefit the most from the higher BS.

Are any of the Doctrines worth it? It seems that the Upgraded Sponsons and Ace Gunners(Reroll ones) might be worth it.

I might hit you guys with an army list soon.

Thanks.
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 22:45   #2 (permalink)
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MKaybe this will help

http://uk.games-workshop.com/imperia...c-vehicles.pdf

And this

http://uk.games-workshop.com/imperia...c-armylist.pdf
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 22:49   #3 (permalink)
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Yes what is the point of an conqueror? The only good things about it is the co-axel storm bolter.

You MUST note that the upgraded sponstens only apply to the standard leman russ. The one with the battle cannon. Since the battle cannon is an ordinance weapon, you will NOT be firing the plasma cannons 75% of the time, except if you get a weapon destroyed on the battle cannon.

Don't give your commander a exterminator, its weapon are twin-linked and will wast his good BS. Try giving you tank ace a destroyer tank hunter. It's weapon is nearly as good as a railgun.

Also a good doctrine is Side skirts. It increases the side armour by one. Turning the weak russ's side armour into something more powerful.

Also a salamander is a lethal tank hunter if it is given a hunter killer missile, and since it is a fast vichle, Bang!
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 23:08   #4 (permalink)
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I would put the commander in an exterminator definetly, and then your aces in destroyer tank hunters, the extra BS is alwsays good for things better than a railgun (sorry people but it is!)

can't help you with the doctrines the Cahpter Approved 2004 doesn't have them and I don't want to dig out my other copy in WD.
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 23:50   #5 (permalink)
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Hey, a commander has a BS of 4. And chapter approved on any games workshop site will have the doctrines. It's in the armoured company army list.
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Hm.. Interesting responses. I really don't think I'll need a Destroyer. To me, it's a waste of points. I'd rather invest in some other form, and it's not like I won't have enough anti-tank lying around in a list anyway.

Another question, is extra armor worth it on most of the tanks? I figured it would be, but just checking. Also, I'd also guess Smoke Launchers are worth it, being the small amount of points they are.

Thanks for the replies. Keep 'em coming.
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Old 16 Aug 2006, 01:36   #7 (permalink)
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Wargamer said this and it is true, add sponsons to the tanks and something to kill tanks and other infantry. So if you lose the main gun you still have back up.
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For 5 points extra armour roxzors ur soxzors. Best upgrade for a tank EVER. Smoke launchers are handy if you dont have a target butn they do on you.
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Hmm...

Well, I prefer the Conqueror model, but aside from that, an Exterminator can bring many of the same skills to the table. I say go for the Exterminator. I've used it well in several games, its always provided lead rain when I need it.

I like the idea of a BS4, 3 HB, TLed AC commander... Throw in a Storm Bolter or Stubber, and you have a very solid firebase. I think a Vanquisher is better for Tank Ace, or a Destroyer [thats allowed, correct? Been awhile since I read the rules...] They both fare much better in the AT department, and, who can argue, the fluff fits it well.

Doctrines, well, I stay away from them... too confusing really. I say just do it vanilla style... its a bit more of a challenge, and a lot simpler.

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Maybe... Here's what I'm thinking of:

Command Tank: Exterminator - 295
Options: Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponsons Heavy Bolters
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Pintle heavy Stubber
Doctrines: Ace Gunners, Crush and Grind

Tank Ace: Exterminator - 248
Options: Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponsons Heavy Bolters
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners, Crush and Grind

Troop Tank: Leman Russ - 178
Options: Hull Heavy Bolter
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Troop Tank: Leman Russ - 178
Options: Hull Heavy Bolter
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Troop Tank: Leman Russ - 213
Options: Hull Lascannon, Plasma Cannon Sponsons.
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners, Improved Sponsons

Reconnaissance Section: HellHound - 148
Options: None.
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Armoured Fist Squad - 173
Options: Squad: Meltagun Chimera: Multilaser, Hull Heavy Bolter
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Support Tank: Leman Russ Demolisher - 188
Options: Hull Lascannon
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Support Tank: Leman Russ Demolisher - 188
Options: Hull Lascannon
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

Artillery Tank: Griffon - 108
Options: Hull Heavy Bolter
Upgrades: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Doctrines: Ace Gunners

That's more or less what I eventually want, give or take a few things. I only added Crush and Grind to the Command and Ace Tank because he has to have more points spent on Doctrines than any other tank.

I'd also like to note, this list is more for fun than tournament level play, though it may see a bit. I'm basing it off the 7th Panzer Division, Erwin Rommel's division early in WW2.

What are your thoughts?
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