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Basilisks: How many is too many?
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 01:54   #1 (permalink)
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Default Basilisks: How many is too many?

Relatively new to Guard, I been fascinated with barrage weapons and sort. So, naturally, I fell in love with the Basilisk. Nice long range, GREAT strength and AP, and for so cheap. However, I find people here all the opposed to the Basilisk, favoring instead the Lemon Russ Battle Tank. What makes the Lemon Russ so much better then the Basilisk?

Positives:
Long Range (With the ablity to match and EVEN exceed the Hammerhead, I find this very useful on the boards.)
Indirect Fire (This I find the most useful. The Lemon Russ has to be within sight for its main gun to fire, leaving it open to any and all forms of AT.)

Negatives
Weak Armour (Obviously, the most noticeable drawback is the weak armour comparable to most tanks in the IG list.)
Support Weapons (This is not as bad as one would think as if the enemy is able to get within range of the Basilisk, there are IG squads to lend support.)

Personally, I would like field 2 Basilisks and a Demolisher. But, would that be considered cheap, as the Basilisks can hide from most AT weaponary, or am slightly short-cutting myself by not taking a LR Battle Tank? Opinions please.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 02:22   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Basilisks: How many is too many?

Any amount is too much. To me at least, the Basilisk doesn't belong in 40k, unless you are fielding an artillery company or something similar. If you want a 40k sized artillery piece, get a Griffon.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 02:49   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Basilisks: How many is too many?

I agree... one is too much, let alone more. I've been to make shirts with the silhouette of a Bassie with zero gun elevation and the caption "More to life than Indirect Fire".

If you want manly artilery, get a Griffon. The Basilisk only sells, IMO, because some people actually think that range over 72" actually counts for something :.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 03:50   #4 (permalink)
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I like the Basilisk simply because it can outrange a Hammerhead, for a few turns at least. But I do think the IG should get a shorter range artillery (like the Griffon) and the Basilisk should work more like an Orbital Bombardment for Inquistor armies (IE, off the table). That would do there supposed multi kilometer range better justice.
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It is the most pointless tank in 40K. In Epic is it king, but Epic is the only game it should be in... it has no place in 40K.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 10:46   #6 (permalink)
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I play on a 4 by 8 foot board.

I need to get my Eathshaker emplacement built. Im sick of my friend's HHs.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 11:30   #7 (permalink)
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4 is too many. You only get 3 heavy slots.

On belonging: I am currently building my second IG army. This one is all foot with 1 WWI style tank. I will use 2 basilisks, but they will be towed artillery on WWI style carrages rather than SP guns. It is fluffy, and it is the only thing I have stronger than an autocannon in the army (aside from the lascannons on the 1 tank).

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Here's the problem with Basilisks. They have GREAT maximum range, but when your opponent gets something inside of that 36" min-range, you're forced to expose yourself to direct fire. That tank just isn't built for a fire fight, it can dish it but cannot take it in return.

Sure, you may say "well just put it in a corner to maximize fire range" or "put one in each corner to guard the other". I've tried it, it doesn't work well.

Just take a Leman Russ, they can fire idirect, and go into a firefight and be fine. The extra points are well spent.
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Old 09 Aug 2006, 16:39   #9 (permalink)
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Like Warhounds and Superheavies, this is only goodd is mega battles and epic.
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Leman Russes cannot fire indirectly.
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