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Old 08 Jul 2006, 02:37   #1 (permalink)
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Default Fighting battle tomorrow, army list help

I will be fighting a Tau army tomorrow and I do not know what they will have, but he does not know what I have either.

We will be playing clense mission 1500 pts

my list

Doctrines

Iron Dis
Close order drill
conscripts


HQ

Heroic Senior officer
power weapon
iron dis
bolt pistol
2 plasma gun guardsmen
Commissar
pw bolt pistol
total - 147

Elites
9 - Storm Troopers
plasma guns
chimera
multi laser
HB
Heavy stubber
smoke
total - 215

Fire Support squad
heavey bolters
total - 80

platoon one

command squad JO
bolter
iron dis
2 heavy bolter teams
total - 66

squad 1
plasma gun, auto cannon
- 85

squad 2
GL, Missle Launcher
- 83

squad 3
lascannon, plasma fun
- 95

squad 4
plasma gun, auto cannon
total - 85

total troop 1
414

troop 2
40 conscripts
four flamers
total - 196

Fast attack
hellhound
smoke
extra armor
heavy stubber
total - 135

Heavy support

lemn Russ
heavy bolters all around
total - 155

leman Russ
heavy bolters all around
total - 155


total 1497

got three points left, should this do well against Tau?

thoughts, whatever
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Old 08 Jul 2006, 06:28   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Fighting battle tomorrow, army list help

I am new to IG but not new to Tau.

The heavy bolter are going to hurt. Tau can not outshoot IG. I think if you could trade out one or two Plasma guns for Auto Cannon you would really be rocking.

1 You won't cook yourself off
2 You would get two shots at good str

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Old 08 Jul 2006, 14:53   #3 (permalink)
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You would get two shots at good str
You cant really mean that. If you trade in two Plasma Guns for just one Autocannon you have the exact same strength and at 24" the same amount of shots. Or better at 12 the Plasma's get 4 shots. Not only that but the Plasma's have a fantastic AP of 2.
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Old 08 Jul 2006, 18:02   #4 (permalink)
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not conscripts, they suck, and they're not even good cannonfodder;

for example, a game with me and kais the other say, his conscripts fired 50 shots, not one wounds, and this was against gaurd

another example; 50 conscripts against 1 squad of blood claws and a runepreist and they got munched, i swear its a bad idea taking conscripts, i'm not saying you CANNOT do it, im just saying its a bad idea
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Old 08 Jul 2006, 23:20   #5 (permalink)
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not conscripts, they suck, and they're not even good cannonfodder;

for example, a game with me and kais the other say, his conscripts fired 50 shots, not one wounds, and this was against gaurd

another example; 50 conscripts against 1 squad of blood claws and a runepreist and they got munched, i swear its a bad idea taking conscripts, i'm not saying you CANNOT do it, im just saying its a bad idea
Ill have to agree with that 100%. Hitting on 5's and wound T4 on 5's is about the worst thing that there is in the entire game.
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 05:53   #6 (permalink)
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Conscripts hit marines on fours. You have to have double you opponents weapons skill plus one to make them hit on 5s.

Consricts aren't great, but they can be useful, like every unit you just have to use them right.

You seem to have two heavy bolter teams in you platoon HQ, you can have a max of one team.
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 06:04   #7 (permalink)
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I was talking about shooting.
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 06:12   #8 (permalink)
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the autocannon is the ig weapon of choice for downing skimmers (read: devilfish) though. might have trouble with hammerheads, but a few rockets here and there should clear that right up. (added bonus: insta-kill suits!)

with the points saved by not buying conscripts, a heavy bolter support squad can be bought to hide in terrain and rip up firewarriors.

another thing. as he is tau, i can all but guarantee a railhead (hammerhead with railgun) that will murderate your russ tanks. watch out!

an indirect fire basilisk can hide from nasty at weapons and blast the suits you'll also amlost sertaintly be facing.

hellhound will work wonders on tau infantry if you can get it close enough.

good luck!
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 06:14   #9 (permalink)
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thanks for the info, I caught my mistake about the command squad when somebody watching the game told me that was illegal.

but I lost the game pretty bad, the tau blew everything I had to hell, the guy had like five maxed out squads of Fire warriors that blew my infantry to hell. Maybe he knew I was bringing alot of infanty to hold table quarters. My Russ's did pretty well but got taken out by rail guns.

Suprisingly the Hellhound survived until the fourth turn and did alot of damage

the conscripts were a waste of points, they got shot to crap in the second turn and failed their morale check even with a junior officer nearbye using his leadership and I could not get them rallied the rest of the game

The storm trooper tried to hold a table quarter but their chimera got destroyed in the first turn and they had to walk to the objective, they are no match for fire warriors in a shoot out

fun game, this was my first match against tau, they are pretty solid

P.S.

I gave a good showing he did not have much left on the board at the end but he held two table quarters at the end and I held only one
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I would hate to say i told you so but i wont, you learn from your mistakes, what was your final list in the end?
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