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Old 06 Apr 2006, 15:04   #1 (permalink)
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A friend and me just got into 40K and we kinda went a bit nuts he bought a 2000 point Tau army and i bought a 2500 point Smurf army. Then i found a decently priced IG army totally about 4000 points and bought it.

Problem: The IG stuff is older probably from a previous edition. I got two tanks that look like they have grenade launchers (LOL), i assume they are Old Basilisks.

In regards to the Leman Russ battle tank and the demolisher by adding an extention onto the main gun could i turn a demolisher into a battle tank (following wysiwyg)

Question to all the other IG commanders: How many special weapons and heavy weapons platforms should a guy have

Lastly..... can you make Catacans into storm troopers so long as you just call them that. Since i seen both Cadian Kasrkin Squad, Cadian Shock Troops, and Imperial Guard Steel Legion Squad all being represented as shock troops (i think in the codex) Other than that any help would be good thanks for any info you got
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Old 06 Apr 2006, 15:27   #2 (permalink)
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you can turn the demolisher into a normal russ by all means, but i dont think you can pass catachan off as stormies. stormtroopers are armed with hellguns and not las-carbines, and they wear carapace, not tank tops.

as to special and heavy weapons: i usually take one special and heavy weapon per 10 man squad. i dont use heavy weapons in command squads, but i do use special weapons every now and then. you might want to use less heavy weapons, so buying a heavy weapon squad boxed set should give you all you need.(3 of each)

i think there's only ever been one basilisk model, so what you might have are griffon heavy mortars.
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Old 06 Apr 2006, 15:57   #3 (permalink)
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Maybe post some pics so that we can give you a clearer answer?
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Old 06 Apr 2006, 22:17   #4 (permalink)
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alright here's a list of what i have
Catchacan's
7 = bp + sword
3 = grenade launchers
4 = Flamers
2 = Plasma
3 = Melta
1 = auto cannon team
2 = Las cannon teams
2 = heavy bolter teams
8 = command options
37 = las rifle troops

1 chimera
1 hellhound
7 sentinals
1 demolisher
2 mortar / baslisk (i don't think it would be hard to convert into basilisk's lengthen gun and put a bit of armor


now i can buy another 2 chimera's 1 hellhound and 1 or 2 more demolishers...

i think i need more troops though
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2 mortar / baslisk (i don't think it would be hard to convert into basilisk's lengthen gun and put a bit of armor
If you do indeed have Griffons, keep them! They are nigh on impossible to find these days, and are much better than a basilisk. Before you buy any more tanks, get tons more troops.
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Old 07 Apr 2006, 17:35   #6 (permalink)
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along with the tanks i'm probably getting around another 60 beautifully painted ground pounders so i'll have a decent army. I still think i'm gonna paint a storm trooper unit cause it's so damn cool.

One thing i am missing in my army is vox casters i see that there is a use to them i was just wondering what else everyone thought about them and how well they help.
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they are extremely useful. you have an HSO with a master vox, and you can upgrade your squads from ld7 to ld9 for less than a single guardsmen. add a comissar and you upgrade the squads to ld10.

i'd recommend you buy alot of troops. a plastic box of cadians gives you two full squads, you get 1 vox caster, 2 greande launchers, 2 flamers, 2 laspistol and closecombat weapons, 3 bayonet lasguns and 2 normal lasguns per squad. personally i would buy a starter set and one or two troop boxes.

as legio said, keep the griffons. not only are they rare, they are alot more useful than a basilisk.
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Old 08 Apr 2006, 13:27   #8 (permalink)
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they are extremely useful. you have an HSO with a master vox, and you can upgrade your squads from ld7 to ld9 for less than a single guardsmen. add a comissar and you upgrade the squads to ld10.
Hey Elessar, are you saying that with the commissar advisor rule your leadership goes up to 10 over the vox system?

As far as I knew the commissar +1 Ld didn't go over the vox. It only applied to leadership rolls the squad he is with takes. If the HSO, SO, JO dies and the commissar takes over I know the ld 10 goes over the vox net but not before I don't think
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the commissar adds one to the officer's leadership, and officers leadership is used over vox. ipso facto the commissar's bonus passes over the vox.(same with iron discipline)
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the commissar adds one to the officer's leadership, and officers leadership is used over vox. ipso facto the commissar's bonus passes over the vox.(same with iron discipline)
See the IG FAQs, commissar's leadership bonus is conveyed over vox, ID isn't.
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