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Old 03 Mar 2006, 11:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rate my Vostroyan Siege Force 1500pts

Hi. I am totally new to the forum but luckily not to the hobby.
The last few months I've played around with the Imperial Guard trying to figure out how to build up a force that has the strength to crush the armies I'm most often pitted against, which would be WH, Eldar, Tyranids, Tau, Chaos and DH.

The result so far is the Vostroyan Siege Force "Sabretooth", and I was hoping the experienced players here could give me some tips and hints if there's anything in the army that doesn't seem right to you.

I'm planning on creating this army with Vostroyan models (with a darker colour scheme and probably even try to get rid of the hats) and I've chosen doctrines that would be fitting.

Well, here goes.


Vostroyan Siege Force Sabretooth
1500pts

Doctrines:
Carapace Armour (Platemail)
Die-Hards
Iron Discipline
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Command Platoon

Command Squad
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
HSO w/ Iron Discipline, Power Weapon, Refractor Field
Meltagun
2x Plasma gun
Master-vox
Chimera Transport w/ Multi-laser, heavy bolter, Extra armour, Heavy stubber, Smoke launchers.

280 pts
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Infantry Platoon 1

Command Squad
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
JO w/ Power weapon, Iron Discipline, Melta bombs
Voxcaster
Lascannon

2 Infantry Squads
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
Sergeant w/ lasgun
Autocannon
Voxcaster

320 pts
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Infantry Platoon 2

Command Squad
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
JO w/ Power weapon, Iron Discipline, Melta bombs
Voxcaster
Lascannon

2 Infantry Squads
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
Sergeant w/ lasgun
Heavy bolter
Voxcaster

310 pts
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Hardened Veterans
Die-hards, Carapace Armour
Veteran Sergeant w/ Power Weapon, Melta Bombs
Vox-caster
2x Plasma gun
Meltagun
5 w/ lasguns

155 pts
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2 Basilisks
Hull heavy bolter, Indirect fire, Extra armour

2x130 pts = 260 pts
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Leman Russ Battle Tank
Hull heavy bolter, Heavy bolter sponsons, Heavy stubber, Extra armour, Smoke launchers.

175 pts
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Total: 1500 pts

I counted the guardsmen to be 65. All with 4+ sv and with a very low chance of failing morale and leadership.

When I decide to expand to a 2000 point army, I'll probably add the Veterans doctrine and pick another group of vets, and add the rough rider doctrine or just put in a few hellhounds to get some fast-moving support.

As you can see this is not a very mobile army. The reason for this is that I used to keep my heavy weapons in support squads, but I noticed that these are the first to be targetted by the enemy, so I decided to spread them across the ranks, thus making my guardsmen primarily standing still.

So, tell me what you think of it and we'll all see if you've got better ideas.
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Old 03 Mar 2006, 13:50   #2 (permalink)
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Normally I am ready-and-willing to criticize the use of Carapace Armour... but these are Vostroyans, so they're cool enough to get away with it.

An interesting force. I would very much like to see this army on the field.
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Old 03 Mar 2006, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Tomorrow I'll test this army against a trigger-happy bolter-toting witch hunter. He has won our last few games, mostly because of his faith rules (invulnerable 3+ sv is quite helpful against my basilisks) and the lack of save on my part (ap 5 bolters mean no guards left). But this time it's my turn to win. I'm sure of it, and I'll let you all know how it went.

Feel free to post more commentaries and whatever thoughts you might have on the army. Thanks.
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Old 03 Mar 2006, 23:24   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, Carapace Armour is a huge waste of points, take that off and buy some more guard. Vostroyans would be cool, but I would hate to see them loose because of Carapace Armour. I just dislike that doctrine.....

Good luck in your battle!
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I do as well, normally... but I can see how it can suit the Vostroyans, especially as a lot of players seem to see these guys as "Ordo Hereticus Stormtroopers".
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Old 04 Mar 2006, 00:02   #6 (permalink)
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How are you going to play? Did they release Vostroyans already?
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Old 04 Mar 2006, 13:38   #7 (permalink)
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Not that I know of. But hey, I'll use other models lying around. I know, I hate doing it too, but since the models aren't released yet, I haven't got much choice.
I'll try to play-test and remake my army a couple of more times before I finally decide exactly what models and how many to buy.

About the carapace, I think it's worth it. Not only does the save improve, it is also a lot more often you get the chance to roll saving throws at all. It's not fun against bolters and the likes with ap5. I've grown tired of just picking my models from the table and not even be able to do anything about it.
The total cost of the carapace is 8x20=160 pts. I'd rather keep it instead of two squads that'll just die. With the 4+ I'm confident 8 groups survive longer than 10 groups with 5+...

The battle is on for tonight. I'll maybe even run a match against 'nids or eldar. I'll post to let you all know how it goes.
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