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Old 27 Feb 2006, 01:39   #1 (permalink)
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HQ:
Senior Officer
power weapon
laspistol
vet sgt
bolt pistol
2 flamers
2xccw
1 laspistol
79pts

Platoon
JO
ccw
boltpistol
vet sgt
ccw
boltpistol
heavybolter team
lasgun
58pts

squad1
vetsgt
ccw
laspistol
plasma gun
autocannon
6lasguns

squad2 is the same

Armoured fist squad(10men)
7 lasguns
plasma gun
missile launcher team
vetsgt

chimera
multilaser
hull heavy bolter
extra armour
181pts

should be exactly 500pts

Any mistakes in points tell me I will fix it.
C&C are welcome.Thanks for reading.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 03:01   #2 (permalink)
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kinda confusing...im not sure how you...
oh wait. never mind.
next time, when you describe your platoon, do it like this:

platoon ###:Junior Officer- power weapon, bolt pistol iron discipline, HF-
Vet- medic, bolt pistol, power weapon
Vet- vox, laspistol and ccw
Trooper- flamer
Trooper- flamer
Total- 110
that way, we know what is where.
i know that this isnt from your list. it is an example.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 03:02   #3 (permalink)
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sorry will fix.
All is fixed(Most likely I got 11 looks but no reply).

It is not confusing any more people, come on and give sugestions please.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 03:35   #4 (permalink)
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Actually, it's still almost impossible to read...

Quote:
Armoured fist squad
7 lasguns
plasma gun
missile launcher team
vetsgt
chimera
multilaser
hull heavy bolter
extra armour
181pts
That, for instance, in incredibly difficult to make sense out of. A much more effective way is:

Armoured Fist Squad - 181pts
Plasma Gun, Missile Launcher
Vet Sgt.
Chimera w/ Multi-laser, Heavy Bolter, Extra Armour

For example.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 07:14   #5 (permalink)
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well an HQ choice in a combat patrol(this is a combat patrol right?) seems a bit over priced. also the vet sargeant has bolt pistol and CCW right? not just bolt pistol? same for the guy with the laspistol im guessing. as far as i can see this squad is a counter charge squad to hold people down.

your normal squad seem alright, however i dont recomend gving your sargeants laspistols and CCWs, you better off with just lasguns.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 21:02   #6 (permalink)
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Yes Elessar you are correct with the ccw,this is a reguler 500pt game list,and Dra-Tuisich'Novae,its not confusing,troops and weapons come first then the chimera and its upgrades,so I can't understand whats so difficult to understand,you posted basicly what I put only shorter,and if it was difficult how come you can understand it?
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or a smart alec,but what I posted was easy to understand.

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Old 27 Feb 2006, 22:42   #7 (permalink)
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No offence, but what you posted is only easy to read because you posted it - and thus you know what the information is.

Platoon
JO -Better to list the upgrades of individual models in a row.
ccw
boltpistol
vet sgt -Better to list the upgrades of individual models in a row.
ccw
boltpistol
heavybolter team
lasgun -No need to say - we know how many lasguns will be left.
58pts

squad1
vetsgt -Better to list the upgrades of individual models in a row.
ccw
laspistol
plasma gun
autocannon
6lasguns -No need to say - we know how many lasguns will be left.

squad2 is the same

Bloody aweful lot of text that you don't need, essentially; It's much simpler to put:

Platoon:
JO - bolt pistol, ccw
veteran - bp, ccw
heavy bolter
58pts

2x infantry squads
vet sgt. w/ laspistol & ccw
plasmagun
autocannon

I don't mean to nitpick, it's just that your way of listing upgrades takes up a huge amount of space and is very hard to read.

That said, so I don't sound like too much of a hater, I'll try and comment on the list:

Not shabby, my only concern would be to add a bit of heavy antitank - there are idiots out there who use Land Raiders and Demolishers in 500pt games... perhaps drop the assault role of the command squad and switch the Flamers for a Lascannon?

Also - Elessar: As much as a player who has to take a Seer Council, and whose fluff dictatates that he cannot use Conscripts or Amoured Fists, would love to use CP rules... I get the impression that as a 500 point army it uses standard FOC rules .
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 23:34   #8 (permalink)
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True.No offence taken.I'll remember to do that.I thought about lascannons,but 500pts is hard for some armys to fit two troops an hq plus a 255 or 260pt tank ,but I'll reconsider it as I have seen and heard of these idiots your talking about.Thanks for the advice.
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 23:55   #9 (permalink)
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True.No offence taken.I'll remember to do that.I thought about lascannons,but 500pts is hard for some armys to fit two troops an hq plus a 255 or 260pt tank ,but I'll reconsider it as I have seen and heard of these idiots your talking about.Thanks for the advice.
All criticism of your style of posting aside, (I had no problem reading it) I would like to offer a bit of constructive criticism of your list.

I have never really understood the Senior Officer as a choice. His leadership is no better than a JO, you are just shelling out a lot of points for an extra wound. You might consider either ungrading him by turning him into a JO with an honorifica, or downgrade to a JO, ditching the power weapon, and saving some points so you can turn one of your autocannons into a lascannon or getting a pintle stubber for your Chim. Your HQ command squad is just a compulsory, if it does ever get into assault, you are probably dead anyways.

Why is the officer carrying the laspistol and the veteran carrying a bolt pistol? Your squads look solid though. It is quite difficult to build a feasable guard army with 500 points because of our wierd platoon rules, so I congratulate you on that.
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Old 28 Feb 2006, 00:07   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks.The SO has the pwr weapon because it has it on the model(You know the cadian HQ box),but as soon as I find a ccw I might change it.I'll downgrade the SO to JO.
Thinking of getting that lascannon.The pintle stubber is good if I lose my main weapons,but chances are it will only get one use and thats to where I need it to go and it is not most likely going to come back,so I'm really going to only get one use out of it.

Should I give the vet sgt a laspistol or would it be worth it to give him a lasgun?
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